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Did DIRECTV Try to Buy TiVo?: Phillip Swan reports that Rupert Murdoch tried to buy a controlling interest in TiVo.

"Murdoch's News Corp. purchased a controlling interest in DIRECTV in late 2003. Soon after the paperwork was dry, Murdoch made an offer to buy a similar controlling interest in TiVo, TVPredictions.com has learned. The media mogul advised TiVo that it would be in its best interest, considering that DIRECTV was generating approximately 70 percent of the DVR service's new subs. What would happen if DIRECTV was suddenly no longer your partner? TiVo was asked.

Despite the implicit threat, TiVo's top management did not like Murdoch's offer. Under the plan, News Corp. would effectively have control of the company, although it was offering to purchase less than a majority stake. (Similarly, News Corp. purchased a controlling interest in DIRECTV, but owns just 35 percent of the company.) TiVo felt that Murdoch was trying to get the company on the cheap.

In addition, TiVo executives were concerned that the DIRECTV deal would forever prevent it from aligning with the cable TV industry and reaching a mass audience. DIRECTV now has more than 14 million subscribers, but cable operators reach nearly 70 million homes.

So, TiVo said no. However, you don't say no to Rupert Murdoch without consequences.

Soon after, DIRECTV chairman Eddy Hartenstein resigned from TiVo's board of directors. Then, DIRECTV sold its entire equity stake in TiVo, which first led to rumors that the two companies were on the outs. And finally, DIRECTV announced at the January 2005 Consumer Electronics Show that it would launch its own DVR service, separate from TiVo."

Although I would have rather seen a little more actual evidence than, "Murdoch made an offer to buy a similar controlling interest in TiVo, TVPredictions.com has learned." It is interesting speculation.

With Rupert's ego I could see him reacting the way DirecTV has, like a jilted lover, out of spite.

I just hope that the DirecTV-TiVo customer doesn't lose out over what Swann alleges as Murdoch's spite. I'll be pretty upset if they decide not to support my HDTV TiVo's ability to watch network high def later this year.

Very interesting commentary and analysis by Swann but still I wish there was some way he could better substantiate his claims other than "TVPredictions has learned."
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rtt2
Did DIRECTV Try to Buy TiVo?
The answer may explain the shaky relationship between the two companies.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C.. (April 4) -- A little over a year ago, the DIRECTV-TiVo relationship seemed to be a perfect marriage.

The satellite TV provider was using the Digital Video Recording service to attract new subscribers, particularly among early adopters of new technology.

TiVo, which had struggled to persuade VCR owners to try the new technology, could count on DIRECTV to provide a steady stream of new customers.

Both sides were benefiting. However, today, the two companies appear headed for divorce. DIRECTV has announced that it will launch its own DVR service. Although the satcaster continues to market TiVo, many analysts question whether the relationship will continue when their current marketing agreement expires in 2007.

What happen to this blissful arrangement?

The answer: Rupert Murdoch.

Taking Control
Murdoch's News Corp. purchased a controlling interest in DIRECTV in late 2003. Soon after the paperwork was dry, Murdoch made an offer to buy a similar controlling interest in TiVo, TVPredictions.com has learned. The media mogul advised TiVo that it would be in its best interest, considering that DIRECTV was generating approximately 70 percent of the DVR service's new subs. What would happen if DIRECTV was suddenly no longer your partner? TiVo was asked.

Despite the implicit threat, TiVo's top management did not like Murdoch's offer. Under the plan, News Corp. would effectively have control of the company, although it was offering to purchase less than a majority stake. (Similarly, News Corp. purchased a controlling interest in DIRECTV, but owns just 35 percent of the company.) TiVo felt that Murdoch was trying to get the company on the cheap.

In addition, TiVo executives were concerned that the DIRECTV deal would forever prevent it from aligning with the cable TV industry and reaching a mass audience. DIRECTV now has more than 14 million subscribers, but cable operators reach nearly 70 million homes.

So, TiVo said no. However, you don't say no to Rupert Murdoch without consequences.

Soon after, DIRECTV chairman Eddy Hartenstein resigned from TiVo's board of directors. Then, DIRECTV sold its entire equity stake in TiVo, which first led to rumors that the two companies were on the outs. And finally, DIRECTV announced at the January 2005 Consumer Electronics Show that it would launch its own DVR service, separate from TiVo.

What's Next?
Now, the two companies are like a old married couple who must continue to live together without certainty of a future. DIRECTV is still aggressively marketing TiVo, but it's unclear if that will continue when DIRECTV's new DVR partners are ready with boxes and software. (Under its own brand, DIRECTV is expected to offer future DVR products from Humax and NDS, the latter of which is owned by parent company News Corp.) TiVo, which publicly says the relationship is as strong as ever, still must rely on DIRECTV for the majority of its new subs. (The company has signed a licensing deal with Comcast, but it will not go into effect until late 2006, at the earliest.)

With the TiVo-Comcast deal on the horizon, it's possible that DIRECTV will want to continue its relationship with the DVR service post-2007. The satcaster certainly doesn't relish the prospect of Comcast boasting that it has TiVo while the satellite service doesn't..

However, Murdoch has always danced to a different beat. History shows that if he can't buy 'em, he'll eventually try to destroy 'em. Murdoch may feel that he can do without TiVo, regardless of what cable does.

In fact, despite the marketing pressures, I predict that Murdoch will let TiVo go. He's just not the kind of person who succumbs to pressure. He's the kind that likes to apply it.

Phillip Swann is president and publisher of TVPredictions.com. He has been quoted in dozens of publications and broadcast outlets, including CNN, Fox News, Inside Edition, The Chicago Tribune, The Associated Press and The Hollywood Reporter. He can be reached at swann@tvpredictions.com or at 703-505-3064.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/tivodirectv040405.html
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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Time In A Bottle - Jim Croce
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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dishstaller
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4
dfergie
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...