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smokey982
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
My wife and I both have iPhones and have been with AT&T for the past 12 years. Our contracts are up and we plan to upgrade to the new iPhones next month. I've been thinking lately about changing to Verizon. It's not that I'm unhappy with AT&T. Really the only reason is because we have some close friends that live somewhat in the country and I get very little service (if any) when we're there (Verizon works great there). I was in radio shack yesterday and mentioned that to the salesman. And although they sell both services, he seemed to lean toward AT&T more for some reason. He mentioned that he thought AT&T had a little better technology and I never really understood what he meant. So I ask you guys. Other than reception issues, is there any differences in there services? As I said we plan on upgrading to the new iPhones and will be moving to the new family shared plans whether we stay or go. Because we don't currently have unlimited plans anyway. Thoughts?
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smokey982
Well I guess unless something changes I'll be moving to Verizon. I looked over the family shared plans and with only 2 smartphones on my plan, both services are the exact same price. Both providers offer 4g LTE in my area and I haven't been able to find any differences in 4g technology. So I guess the only thing left is coverage. Although my AT&T coverage is fine where I live, it's really crappy at certain places I visit.
mike123abc
AT&T appears to be trying to get the jump on the iPhone announcement by announcing 49 new LTE markets:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6245/att-announces-9-newly-lit-lte-markets-40-before-end-of-2012

9 on now, 40 more to come by end of year.

It will boost them up significantly in the % of population... But still be quite a ways behind VZ in land mass covered. Of course they do not plan on being done with the roll out until the end of next year.
jcrandall
I too have an AT&T iphone and have been debating switching to Verizon a bit after the iphone 5 rollout. For me it is a little more financial decision too, as my contract isn't up until next April, but my upgrade date for AT&T is the start of November. So if I switch to Verizon I'd probably take a $250 range ETF between two phones.

I had a very nice opportunity yesterday to borrow a coworkers Verizon 4G LTE phone (an LG model). For me it was a chance to drive around to areas I spend any significant time, compare signal strength, and run a quick speedtest. I learned a lot, and at this point believe I will stay with AT&T due to their significantly better 3G/HSPA+ setup.

-4G LTE is VERY fast - downloads between 20-30 Mbps. Areas it covered on Verizon were pretty extensive, Lansing MI for example I drove about 30 miles around the city (literally a circle) and have solid 4G the whole time.

-Verizon 3G is VERY slow - between major cities or more rural areas like where I live their 3G was a solid signal - but very slow compared to AT&T. Generally I averaged around 0.5 Mbps.

-AT&T 3G with the HSPA+ (I think of it like 3.5G) - most of the towers have the improved backhaul and deliver solid speeds fast enough for video. Some areas would download 3-5 Mbps, but some were as good ad 12 Mbps. It's not 4G LTE, but it is more then enough for my needs.

-AT&T Edge - I did spend a little time in 2G areas on AT&T where Verizon had 3G, but they are not areas I would spend much time. If someone were to be in a 2G area, they may be better with Verizon even with the slower 3G speeds. AT&T Edge download was around 0.1 Mbps. A bit confusing is one area (St Johns MI) on AT&T's map showed 4G (HSPA+), but while traveling there all I ever got was a full signal, but Edge data.

So for my needs I think I'll be better with AT&T for my travels around central Michigan. There is some solid 4G LTE coverage from Verizon, but the areas where they aren't yet are really bad for data. AT&T and Verizon have pretty similar 3G coverages, but AT&T has much better 3G speeds.

Three more factors - I'll save the ETF, AT&T customer services seems more generous with discounts (I'm currently enjoying $40 off for 3 months after inquiring about my ETF and discussing Verizon with them). Lastly - I'm a bit afraid that having 20-30Mbps service will lead to a bit better quality video, while using a lot more bandwith on video. There is almost a small comfort knowing my bandwith is enough for video, but not too much ;)
yourbeliefs
AT&T appears to be trying to get the jump on the iPhone announcement by announcing 49 new LTE markets:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6245/att-announces-9-newly-lit-lte-markets-40-before-end-of-2012

9 on now, 40 more to come by end of year.

It will boost them up significantly in the % of population... But still be quite a ways behind VZ in land mass covered. Of course they do not plan on being done with the roll out until the end of next year.

Seriously I'm happy and annoyed at the same time with this. I'm happy to read that Hartford will FINALLY be getting LTE and I won't live my nightmare of having more time of my 2 year contract without LTE than with it, but why the hell is Bridgeport getting LTE before Hartford?? While I don't mean to disparage the fine people of Bridgeport, that's like putting a Four Seasons Hotel in the middle of downtown Compton, not to mention it won't touch as many people as putting it in Hartford would. And it wouldn't surprise me to see that Hartford gets it on 12/31/2012. Still, a little bit of hope as I was seriously considering biting the bullet and breaking contract to go to Verizon.
mike123abc
Seriously I'm happy and annoyed at the same time with this. I'm happy to read that Hartford will FINALLY be getting LTE and I won't live my nightmare of having more time of my 2 year contract without LTE than with it, but why the hell is Bridgeport getting LTE before Hartford?? While I don't mean to disparage the fine people of Bridgeport, that's like putting a Four Seasons Hotel in the middle of downtown Compton, not to mention it won't touch as many people as putting it in Hartford would. And it wouldn't surprise me to see that Hartford gets it on 12/31/2012. Still, a little bit of hope as I was seriously considering biting the bullet and breaking contract to go to Verizon.

Considering the main problem AT&T faces with its LTE roll out is lack of backhaul, I would assume they are still laying fiber or had some fiber delays in your area. It is probably a lot easier to get fiber around in rural/suburban areas than a major city. Again it goes back to AT&T not investing enough in the past and now having to play catch up.

Essentially the equipment is readily available, the towers are all built (i.e. they are already running voice/2G/3G), etc, but since they do not have the backhaul they cannot install the LTE.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
teachsac
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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