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Directv told me yesterday that I needed $49.99 each to upgrade the 2 receivers I have to get my locals plus $99 to get a DVR unit. I understand that the stuff cost $$$ but $200 for a customer of 7 years seems a little high to me. (Now opening a can of worms) Checked with Dish Network, looks like it would be a few bucks cheaper a month, even with DVR, same channels that I watch and no $$$ as they give new customers free equipment. Got free equip with Directv when I signed up too, would have paid for upgrades but $200 is a little much, i think.......
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radionews said:
Directv told me yesterday that I needed $49.99 each to upgrade the 2 receivers I have to get my locals plus $99 to get a DVR unit. I understand that the stuff cost $$$ but $200 for a customer of 7 years seems a little high to me. (Now opening a can of worms) Checked with Dish Network, looks like it would be a few bucks cheaper a month, even with DVR, same channels that I watch and no $$$ as they give new customers free equipment. Got free equip with Directv when I signed up too, would have paid for upgrades but $200 is a little much, i think.......

Ok--- So if it would cost you $200 for 3 new units--- Dish charges you $5/ month to lease.

so $200 compares to $15/month--- in one year, you will have paid the same amount with Dish. Except a) you will continue to pay as long as you are leasing recievers, and b) you will have inferior technology.

I had Dish for 4 years, havent looked back for one second after changing to D* last year. Great stuff.
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Let's look at this from MY point of view as we do BOTH installs.

Bottom line:

For customers that want about 120 channels worth on standard receivers, it's not much different between the two.

When you want less than 120 channels, you go with DISH for lower-priced digital packages.

When you want more than 120 channels, you can either go with DirecTV for maybe 25 more or 60 more with DISH.

If you want NFL Sunday Ticket, no question, you have to go with DirecTV.

If you want international, go with DISH as DirecTV has only a few exclusives and have a bad implementation policy of 72.5/95 dish + elliptical dish on an install. For those customers, they have to pay $150 for the 95 dish if for international programming AND $100 for the 6x8 switch which is very expensive to buy. BAD planing by DirecTV on that part and our customers suffered from that.

If you want HD, this is a toss-up. If you live in an area where you can get the networks in HD, then go with DirecTV. But if you don't want to pay the upfront cost of an HD receiver with DirecTV and can't get too many networks in HD, go with DISH. By the way, DISH is coming with LIL HD by this year for major markets. Don't ask me more on that or I'll get in trouble. On the same token, DirecTV is coming out with a 4-satellite dish and I don't think I'm supposed to reveal that either. ;)

If you want DVR, this is also a toss-up. If you don't want to pay $99 upfront and get $50 back in a mail-in rebate, get the 522, 510, or the 625 from DISH. Otherwise, get the TiVo for its NBR and dual-tuner capability. However, the TiVo IS TOO SLOW FOR ITS GOODNESS. Why they'd make the darn thing so slow and implement a fix so late is beyond me. DirecTV is NOTORIOUS for releasing crucial fixes really late. DISH makes buggy software but it doesn't affect as many customers as DirecTV.

If you don't want to pay up-front for either DVR or HD, get DISH. If you want to save money by doing dual-tuner receivers, get DISH. If you want simple, stable receivers for a few extra dollars and a peace of mind, get DirecTV. If you don't mind receivers or dishes going bad every few months or with the buggy software, get DISH and enjoy the savings.

There you have it, my POV from selling both customers. DirecTV has more reliable receivers and equipment (though the new D10's are causing more problems than the Hughes we carried before), while DISH has some QC problems on some of their parts. I like both but in the end, I got DISH for my home as DirecTV would have cost more upfront. I have a 921 and 2 311's as a Free DISH deal. No way I'd have paid $650 for a HD Tivo even at cost. The 921 was only about $350. ;)
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bsic- even if you own those 3 dtv boxes, you still pay an additional ao fee of 4.99 on 2 of them . Dish network includes one receiver in their base price(just like directv), so they are really the same, that is 3 ird's, 2 get charged. Now here is where dish and their leased equipment saves you- a dish ird can be dual tuner, or run 2 tv's. My 522 is $5 a month cheaper than my previous dtv tivo + std reciever combo. plus now I have dvr in my bedroom too. or if buying equipment is better check out the 501 or 508- there is no dvr fees on these recievers
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madisondish said:
bsic- even if you own those 3 dtv boxes, you still pay an additional ao fee of 4.99 on 2 of them . Dish network includes one receiver in their base price(just like directv), so they are really the same, that is 3 ird's, 2 get charged. Now here is where dish and their leased equipment saves you- a dish ird can be dual tuner, or run 2 tv's. My 522 is $5 a month cheaper than my previous dtv tivo + std reciever combo. plus now I have dvr in my bedroom too. or if buying equipment is better check out the 501 or 508- there is no dvr fees on these recievers

Hi Madisonbdish-

I wasnt referring to mirroring charges which are identical for both providers. I was talking about the lease charges. Lease = rent, and last I checked renting meant you paid to borrow something- this was $5 per box when I was with dish, IN ADDITION to the mirroring fee of $5 per box you pay for any recievers beyond your first.

Its like leasing a car vs. buying. You spend a lot of money with both, and you have nothing to show for it at the end of a lease. You just make payments your whole life without owning anything-- so leasing is NOT a cheaper way to go in the long term.
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Upgrade Day

They said they would be out between 8am-noon on Saturday. They called at 10am and said it wold be closer to noon. at 11am the installer called said he was waiting for another installer to meet up with him as D* didn;t tell him he had 5 installs that day, said just one, and he need more receivers. He said it would be around 2pm. He arrived at 1pm and an hour later had the bigger dish up, the FREE Phillips 708 receiver/tivo running and the locals were coming in on the other receiver. (man they look good when compared to the antenna we were using!). the installer was nice, hid the new cable well and tacked it up nicely out of the way. as far as the Tivo goes......IT IS THE COOLEST THING EVER!!!!!!!!!
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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Heart of Glass - Blondie
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

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I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?

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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.


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I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...


You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.
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TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".
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I take 10mg Rosuvastatin (Crestor). I was paying $34 for a 90day supply at Walgreens last year when I was on Blue Cross. My Blue Cross premiums were going up to $1800 a month this year, so I switched to an Ambetter Bronze plan (I think that's a Cigna company) for $825 a month. I now have a $40 copay for doctors visits which is fine as I usually only see them once or twice a year, so a huge cost savings. My Rosuvastatin was going to go up to around $90 for a 90 day supply at Walgreens and even more at CVS or one of the local family pharmacies. Ordering online thru my insurance portal from Express Scripts it's $0.74 for a 90 day supply.
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TrumpRx?!?

Scripts arrive in a gold paper sack.
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Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx
I'm fortunate and don't take any medications. A couple years ago I had to take some antibiotics and used the GoodRx app. Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher. She said they aren't supposed to tell customers when they see they are being screwed.
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That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.
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