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bincitybandit
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Upgrade to Genie, or Add Another Receiver?

I have kind of a unique situation. I currently have 3 D* HR22 receivers in my home, served by two separate dishes. Each receiver has 2 coax going to it so I can record one channel and watch another at the same time. I have a "man-cave" with 4 TVs in it. Two of the TVs are served by one receiver. All 4 of the TV's are served by some sort of combination of D*, FTA, OTA, and internet. I want to be able to watch two separate D* channels at the same time on two of the Tv's in that room. I do not have a SWiM set-up.

I considered:

1) Upgrading to a Genie in the man-cave, that way I could presumable have 4 different D* stations on all 4 TV's

2) Adding a second receiver to the man-cave

3) Adding Genie to a different room, leaving one receiver in the man-cave, and getting rid of the other 2 receivers

My concern about #1, is that I really have no need for D* on all 4 TV's in one room.

My concern about #2 is that I believe this would require rewiring my system with a SWiM system which I know nothing about. Not sure which SWiM I need. Looks like they range from $140 to $300 with the power supply.

My concern about #3 (and again #1) is that none of my TVs are RVU capable, so I'd have to get 3 C31 clients which may not be cost effective when all the receivers work fine.

I visited with DirecTV and they said the Genie would be $299 plus $49 for installation. I'd rather do the install myself unless it is so complicated that I'm out of my area of expertise. I've been a D* customer for over 15 years and have never had an installer visit. The gal I spoke with basically tried to talk me out of the Genie. She felt I'd be better off just adding a receiver.

I'm leaning toward adding the extra receiver, but appreciate the insight of others. As I said, I need a tutorial on how to install the SWiM and get them all connected.

Thanks in advance............
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bincitybandit
I've decided to just add one more receiver. I was hoping somebody could let me know if I am ordering everything that I need............

-DIRECTV SWM-8 Single Wire Multi-Switch With Power Supply

-DIRECTV SWS-2 Satellite 2-Way Wide Band MRV Compatible Splitter (2 -2150 MHz) ------- Quantity of 4

-DIRECTV SWS-4 Satellite 4-Way Wide Band MRV Compatible Splitter (2 -2150 MHz)

If I am correct, this should allow me to hook my 3 current recievers plus one new one up to my Slimline 5. Then I could just use one wire going to each reciever, and then use the SWS-2 to split the signal off that one wire and feed each receiver and it should retain the full functionality of the DVR's. Do I have all that right?

Unrelated question: I don't have Whole-Home-Service right now. What would I need to do to set it up? I currently have ethernet cable running from the office router to two of my three recievers.
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bincitybandit said:
I've decided to just add one more receiver. I was hoping somebody could let me know if I am ordering everything that I need............

-DIRECTV SWM-8 Single Wire Multi-Switch With Power Supply

-DIRECTV SWS-2 Satellite 2-Way Wide Band MRV Compatible Splitter (2 -2150 MHz) ------- Quantity of 4

-DIRECTV SWS-4 Satellite 4-Way Wide Band MRV Compatible Splitter (2 -2150 MHz)

If I am correct, this should allow me to hook my 3 current recievers plus one new one up to my Slimline 5. Then I could just use one wire going to each reciever, and then use the SWS-2 to split the signal off that one wire and feed each receiver and it should retain the full functionality of the DVR's. Do I have all that right?

Unrelated question: I don't have Whole-Home-Service right now. What would I need to do to set it up? I currently have ethernet cable running from the office router to two of my three recievers.
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The LNB needs to be a SWM too....all you need in terms of the other stuff is a 8 way splitter and a Power inserter. Since you have 8 tuners total setup is easy and wouldnt need all them splitters

splitter like this
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...tible-splitter-(2--2150-mhz)&sku=874409002084

and the PI
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...er-for-swimline-dish-(pi-21)&sku=185463000894

cable from LNB to splitter
one cable to each DVR
on the red painted output of the splitter is where the power inserter gets put in line...

basically its output from splitter------cable------power inserter----cable-----receiver
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Iceberg said:
The LNB needs to be a SWM too....all you need in terms of the other stuff is a 8 way splitter and a Power inserter. Since you have 8 tuners total setup is easy and wouldnt need all them splitters

splitter like this
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...tible-splitter-(2--2150-mhz)&sku=874409002084

and the PI
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...er-for-swimline-dish-(pi-21)&sku=185463000894

cable from LNB to splitter
one cable to each DVR
on the red painted output of the splitter is where the power inserter gets put in line...

basically its output from splitter------cable------power inserter----cable-----receiver
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OK, so my LNB has 4 cables coming from it. I need to change that out with the SWM one that only has 1 wire? Then I forget about the SWM-8 and the splitters that I thought I needed?
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you could go with the SWM8 (the old style) but its kinda overkill
Switching to SWM with the LNB is much easier (and probably cheaper)

Here is a fleabay auction for the whole setup (LNB, splitter and PI)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DIRECTV...ellite_LNB_Downconverters&hash=item35c2efabed

I just searched SWM5 ;)
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bincitybandit
All right, thanks. So would I still need two wires going to each HR22 receiver, or just 1, so that I could still watch and record different channels at the same time?
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Mr Tony
with SWM you only need one cable per receiver. SWM is "magical" as it stacks everything. As example on my Genie/HR34 it can only use SWM. So one cable with 5 tuners working
When you get set up the cable goes into Satellite 1 input. You will have to rerun the satellite setup to change from NON-SWM to SWM but its pretty easy
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Therm
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
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Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
www.apple.com

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
www.apple.com
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Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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navychop
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Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
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navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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cpdretired
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month
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You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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slow_poke_pete said:
wonder why it says that
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Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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This Week in Space 232

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Edq2eavsQ


Direct YouTube Link - This Week in Space 232
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRVxjGm0qtE


Direct YouTube Link - Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event
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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyF_RH1m0mc


Direct YouTube Link - Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!
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The Apple HomeView

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0k5iT-OlpdE


Direct YouTube Link - The Apple HomeView
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osu1991
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus


View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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dishstaller
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Howard Simmons said:
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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TheRatPatrol
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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BIdMzUBHvjw?feature=share
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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