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steveswamp
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Do I need second multiswitch?

I started looking at my satellite setup the other day. I had a newbie tech put it in when I upgraded to HD 18 months ago. It worked, so that was good enough. Now that I'm getting ready to realign my dish, I started looking at the setup. I've got an SL3S, which has a builtin 4 port multiswitch. So I've got 4 feeds coming into the house. The tech took one of the feeds, put a 1x4 multiswitch on it, and used that to cover the house. For receivers, I've got 2 HD and 1 SD. That's it - no DVRs. Can I eliminate the 1x4 switch?

If so, does it matter which port to the dish I use to provide SWM power?

Since I'm only using 3 ports now, if I swap out a receiver for a DVR, any issues?

How much signal loss is associated with a 1x4?


Thanks in advance,

Steve.
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thats probably what happened, during the upgrade your tech switched you from a legacy lnb to a swm lnb and left all 4 wires there, this makes sense, but without pulling the lnb from the feedarm you really have no way to know for sure, what exactly was your origional question however?


Edit*** ahhh now i get it.... your tech switched you over to swm and added the splitter, and your asking if you can eliminate the splitter and 'barrel' the 3 lines together. Well the short answer is no, unless you have the origional lnb your tech probably took with him, you need to leave it setup as it is, why are you realigning again? what sort of signals are you getting on 99/103. If your in the 90s or even 80s you should be good and not need to touch anything. The Power supply needs to stay exactly where it is, and the line plugged into the red port on the splitter outside needs to stay where it is, unless you move the power inserter to a different room, then you must change the lines outside to match. Its probably safest you leave everything connected where its at, or call direct to come out if you need things moved.
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twizt3dkitty said:
Edit*** ahhh now i get it.... your tech switched you over to swm and added the splitter, and your asking if you can eliminate the splitter and 'barrel' the 3 lines together. Well the short answer is no, unless you have the origional lnb your tech probably took with him, you need to leave it setup as it is, why are you realigning again? what sort of signals are you getting on 99/103. If your in the 90s or even 80s you should be good and not need to touch anything. The Power supply needs to stay exactly where it is, and the line plugged into the red port on the splitter outside needs to stay where it is, unless you move the power inserter to a different room, then you must change the lines outside to match. Its probably safest you leave everything connected where its at, or call direct to come out if you need things moved.
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My 101 is in the 90s - most upper, but a few at 90-92. My 101/103 is no higher than 65, and as low as 38. The tech was a new guy who put it up in a rainstorm. It was slightly better when he did it 18 months ago, but it has dropped enough to cause several HD channels (TNT, USA, etc) to drop out. I originally thought this was due to a tree that had grown into the path, but I've taken that down and didn't get much signal level improvement. So I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know what the real dish setup is out there...thanks again.
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steveswamp said:
My 101 is in the 90s - most upper, but a few at 90-92. My 101/103 is no higher than 65, and as low as 38. The tech was a new guy who put it up in a rainstorm. It was slightly better when he did it 18 months ago, but it has dropped enough to cause several HD channels (TNT, USA, etc) to drop out. I originally thought this was due to a tree that had grown into the path, but I've taken that down and didn't get much signal level improvement. So I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know what the real dish setup is out there...thanks again.
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Your 99c, 103ca and 103cb signals should be in the high 80s to mid 90s. Don't worry about 99s and 103s, they carry spotbeamed HD locals and so it is normal to see low or even zero signals from those spotbeams pointed at other cities.
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if he put it up in a rainstorm im not sure him being new had much to do with your signal issue, (you do have somewhat low signal) but if it was installed while raining, he probably couldnt get it any higher if he was a 10yr vet. Just make sure you have someone near the tv while your trying to peak it to call out numbers, if you dont have a meter or cant do it professionally you could end up making it worse.
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Liquidforce88
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All you have to do is loosen the two bolts that are on the outside of the elevation and the 2 bolts under the backing plate. Leave the bolt that holds the elevation adjustment bolt tight. It will probably only take a very slight change in elevation or azimuth to raise you signals.

Just have someone at one of your receivers looking at the signal screen. Turn the elevation adjustment slowly untill you get signal as high as you can. Then do the same on the azimuth adjustment. You get you signals on 103 and 99 above 90 and you should be good. Won't take much of an adjustment with the numbers you have on your 101.
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Ok, job is done. Here is what I found:

When I pulled out the LNB, I indeed only had one coax attached to it. I guess the confusing part was that before this, I had an 18" round 2-LNB setup. I pulled four coaxes up to the roof in preparation for my move to the new dish. When the installer came out, he shoved all 4 into the LNB arm, even though he used only one.

I did find a slightly loose dish - the tech didn't do a good job of tightening everything down. From a couple heavy storms we've had in the past year, things shifted. The pole that the dish is mounted on (I have a universal chimney mount on my roof) had shifted slightly out of plumb, and the az/el lock bolts were not very tight. I have installed several dishes before, and have aligned/realigned as well. Once I got things peaked, I was good.

To give you an idea of what I had/where I'm at now:

101 was: 92-99, now: 96-100
99c was: 44-59, now: 91-95
103ca was: 27-46 (half were 0), now: 95-97
103cb was: 25-57, now: 91-97
SWM was: 92-100, now: 98-100

So quite a bit of improvement. When the tech first installed this, 99/103 was never better than about 75.

Couple questions, just out of curiousity:

1) I understand 101/99/103....what exactly is the SWM signal strength measuring?
2) on the 101, I have two odd transponders. 26 has always been 0, and 18 is a 73. I can't recall seeing anything on transponder 26 in years, but I don't remember 18 being so low. What's up with these two?

Again, thanks for all the answers.

Steve.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
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Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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navychop
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Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
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navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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wonder why it says that
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Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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This Week in Space 232

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Edq2eavsQ


Direct YouTube Link - This Week in Space 232
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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRVxjGm0qtE


Direct YouTube Link - Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event
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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyF_RH1m0mc


Direct YouTube Link - Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!
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The Apple HomeView

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0k5iT-OlpdE


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Last reply · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus


View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BIdMzUBHvjw?feature=share
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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