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Dee_Ann
Last reply · posted in General Home Theater Equipment
Hi,

I have a few questions about this PVR, bear with me a minute while I explain.

First off, I am NOT a "gamer", I do not own or use game machines, at all. I bought this to record from Dish...

I am a subscriber to Dish, I get AT250 and a few of the premium channels.

For the past year and a half I have had a 2tb disk on my VIP211k and I had recorded a LOT of stuff.
A few weeks ago my HD dish (I use three separate and very large dishes, loooooong story) had lost alignment because the ground dried out and the dish drooped.
So I needed to take my tuner outside to the dish and realign the dish. I went to the tuner and entered the menu utilities and told that to remove the disk from the system.
I followed the on screen prompts and did what the tuner told me to do. I powered everything down, took the tuner outside, re-aligned the dish, took the tuner back inside and reconnected everything.
The disk was never recognized by the tuner again. :mad:

I tried and tried everything imaginable to get the tuner to recognize the disk. Nothing would work at all. I even plugged it into a little laptop I have that runs Mint Linux.
In the past, out of curiosity I plugged the disk into that laptop and it recognized it and I could browse the contents however the contents are encrypted and I couldn't do anything other than view proprietary, encrypted files.
I reconnected the disk to the tuner and it saw it just fine and I was able to use it for more than a year.

So, after losing a LOT of stuff I really wanted to keep, I got MAD!
I decided this would never happen again. Everything else I own, I can make backup copies of. But not my Dish disk! And if there was ever a reason to back it up, this was the reason!

So I went and purchased a very small disk, the smallest I could find, 160gb. I wish I could have found one even smaller but this was about the bottom. It was only $29 so that's fine.
I also bought the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition Plus from Amazon.

The reason I bought the smallest disk possible was to prevent me from stockpiling a bazillion recordings, again. It also goes through the mandatory daily disk check in a matter of minutes. With the 2tb disk it was taking TWO HOURS every morning. It was pretty much full though.

The reason I bought this specific PVR is because it was the only model that came with a Mac OS X app AND it can do HDMI pass-through. Or so they claim. It also was the only one that came with all the cables to connect to ~anything~.

I installed the app on my Mac and that part of it seems to work just fine. I like that I can click on stuff in Titan and schedule recordings however, it does not have the IR blaster option :( and I have to also create a timer in the tuner to auto-tune the show. The bad this is, while it's doing it's thing, I can not press anything on the remote control because it will also record any info pop-ups that the tuner would display onscreen.

I also have to cause the tuner to auto-tune the channel rather than record the channel because it will often record the channel in the background while it plays a local OTA channel on screen.

So here's my real problem with it. They claim that the device will record via HDMI pass-through. Ok, so I tried that. Not so much, no worky-worky...

What happens when I put the Hauppauge recorder inline between the Dish tuner and my TV is that the video plays just fine but on the TV, there's a horrific sputtering noise that is unbearable and makes it totally impossible to use in this way. I tried all sorts of different setups and different cables but it was always the same horrible noise. However, I did try to make some test recordings while connected in this way and they came out just fine. The video was great and the audio was great too. So as a recorder, it did as it was advertised to do. But it just would not pass the audio through without ruining it at the TV end. :(

Is this due to something Dish is doing to prevent people from trying to do what I tried to do? I know they want you to be locked into their little garden, that they don't want you to be able to take recordings and save them in the way YOU want to save them, that they don't allow you to back up your disks to recover from disaster. I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing something to prevent recording on your terms.

What I ended up having to do is connect the Hauppauge recorder to the component video of the on the VIP211k which is limited to 1080i/60. But as I understand it, Dish broadcasts only in "HD Lite" and that there are no 1080p broadcasts anywhere in the US anyway, everything in the US is either 720p or 1080i so connecting to the component shouldn't be an issue.

For audio, I used the red laser wire, I can't ever remember what it's called, optical something, it's the little fiber wire with a red light.

Is there any way to use the HDMI pass through on D* or is it just forbidden by them?

The other question is about recording and bit rates. The Hauppauge app has a lot of options to select when recording.

They are, using variable rate in the kbps range,
1. Good - 5 to 7
2. Better - 7 - 9
3. Best - 9 -10
4. Insanely Good - 14 - 14

Of course the faster it goes, the more it burns up disk.

Ultimately I will end up editing out the commercials and scaling them down from 1080i/60 to 720p/24. Doing that will save disk space. But I want to maintain a balance between the best possible quality but still keep a focus on saving disk space..

Here's some info I took from a recording log.

Input #0, mpegts, from '/Volumes/2tb-Video/new-PVR/20130806_161020.m2ts':
Duration: 00:00:01.61, start: 1.490078, bitrate: 5183 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 59.92 fps, 59.94 tbr, 90k tbn, 59.94 tbc
Stream #0.1[0x1100]: Audio: ac3, 0 channels

Output #0, mp4, to '/Volumes/2tb-Video/new-PVR/20130806_161020.m2ts.mp4':
Stream #0.0: Video: 0x0021, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 60k tbn, 29.97 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 128 kb/s

What would be the suggested bit rate to record using the Hauppauge PVR?
I have searched high and low but I can not find anywhere that tells what bit rate Dish Network transmits their HD content.. I mean, are they using a low bit rate? If they are using a low bit rate then it's my thinking that I won't gain anything by recording in a higher bit rate than they transmit, right? Like if they are only using 3.5kbps for HD(lite) then it would not help me to record it at 5kbps or higher, right?

In other works, if they are using 3.5kbps I could set it for variable bit rate between 3.5 to 5kbps and still get a good quality recording. That's what I'm thinking.
I don't really know the working of Dish equipment as they have a "hands off" policy and don't allow people to explore or peek inside what they are doing.

I am a professional photographer, I own a Canon EOS 5D Mark II so I know about image compression and how BAD it is. I shoot and work in RAW mode so that I can always have the very best results.
I only use jpg when I publish stuff online for others to see because most people can't view RAW images, they are very large and most people wouldn't know the difference or care anyway. But I do.

I want to have good video recordings but I know very little about Dish technical and this new Hauppauge PVR, well it's new to me. My thing is still photography, I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about video. Except watching them. I have a LOT of experience with that.. ;)

Any advice would be appreciated! :)

?Thanks!
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Did you say that the HDMI pass through worked fine as far as the video pass through goes? I have the Logitech Revue Google TV. The pass through on that works just fine as far as video goes,however I don't get 5.1 sound. What I had to do,& you might have to do this with your PVR,was take a digital optical cable & hook it to my Dish receiver(ViP722k DVR) & then hook the other end to my receiver. Actually my set up is like this,hdmi from my ViP722k through my Logitech Revue(substitute Hauppauge PVR in your case) to my TV. I bypass the hdmi pass through on my Onkyo receiver & go straight to the TV from my Logitech Revue. Now I hook up the digital optical cable from my ViP722k to my receiver & that's how I get my sound. Aftwards you can set up your PVR to record via hdmi like you had it before. Unfortunately with Mac,the only way you can coordinate recording between your 211k & Hauppauge PVR 2 is with auto-tune on your 211k. I had a Hauppauge PVR,with just component cable & digital optical cable,& EyeTV software for my Mac because of no compatable blaster.
Dee_Ann
Did you say that the HDMI pass through worked fine as far as the video pass through goes?


Yes, and no... If I plug ONLY the Hauppauge into the D* tuner, it will record audio and video just fine. BUT, it will not pass through the audio when I plug my TV in.
When I plug in the TV to create a pass-through situation, the recording still comes out just fine but the audio coming out of the TV is utterly ruined, it "sputters" loudly and you can not listen to it. The video on the TV looks fine though.



I have the Logitech Revue Google TV. The pass through on that works just fine as far as video goes,however I don't get 5.1 sound. What I had to do,& you might have to do this with your PVR,was take a digital optical cable & hook it to my Dish receiver(ViP722k DVR) & then hook the other end to my receiver. Actually my set up is like this,hdmi from my ViP722k through my Logitech Revue(substitute Hauppauge PVR in your case) to my TV. I bypass the hdmi pass through on my Onkyo receiver & go straight to the TV from my Logitech Revue. Now I hook up the digital optical cable from my ViP722k to my receiver & that's how I get my sound. Aftwards you can set up your PVR to record via hdmi like you had it before. Unfortunately with Mac,the only way you can coordinate recording between your 211k & Hauppauge PVR 2 is with auto-tune on your 211k. I had a Hauppauge PVR,with just component cable & digital optical cable,& EyeTV software for my Mac because of no compatable blaster.


Well, I can't really do this because my system is a little weird. The VIP211K feeds into an HDMI 3 to 1 switch. That feeds into a 1 to 4 splitter.


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With the switch I can I can select which video source I want to see. That goes to a 4 way splitter so that it then will display on all the TV's in the house at the same time.
I have never had any problems with this configuration. When I tried to insert the Hauppauge into it all and it didn't work, I thought maybe it maybe have to do with the switch or the splitter.
So I tried putting it in before the switch, then between the switch and the splitter then between the splitter and the TV in my office. No luck..

Then I tried putting it straight in the middle between the satellite and the TV in my office, without the switch or splitter in it at all. Still no..

So it seems that the Dish system does not like the Hauppauge trying to record through the HDMI. :mad:

Well, that's ok, I just hooked it to the component and optical on the tuner and that works fine. The HDMI circuit remains the way it was before and works just fine.


Oh, and as for some sort of IR blaster thing, I'm open to suggestions! Is there one I can buy that plugs into my Mac? In the setup there is an option for using an external channel changer. ???

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I tried to use the auto-tune on something last night and while it did work, for some reason it didn't record audio. So I've decided that I'll have the tuner actually record to disk then play that back into the tuner so that in case the Hauppauge doesn't record properly I can try again and again until I get it right then I can delete the file from the Dish disk.
dfergie
I've never tried the pass through on mine, other than trying with 3D, maybe next time I'm off ...
navychop
As to the original EHD loss, all you had to do was call Dish for a "hit" as has been posted many times here. Ask here before the frustration builds.

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Grillinessou
Trying to utilize the HDMI when connecting from the receiver to the HD-PVR would cause problems. This is due to HDCP. Best bet would be to use component video and optical audio. There are devices that would switch HDMI to DVI and then process it back out to HDMI... but that would be a bit complex. Try the component video and see what comes up.
Dee_Ann
As to the original EHD loss, all you had to do was call Dish for a "hit" as has been posted many times here. Ask here before the frustration builds.

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This is the first I ever heard that there is a possible resolve. I set the disk aside, I haven't touched it since it went down.
I will plow through the forums tomorrow and see if I can figure out what it is you guys are talking about. I would be extremely happy to get my year+ of videos back.




Trying to utilize the HDMI when connecting from the receiver to the HD-PVR would cause problems. This is due to HDCP. Best bet would be to use component video and optical audio. There are devices that would switch HDMI to DVI and then process it back out to HDMI... but that would be a bit complex. Try the component video and see what comes up.


?That's what I'm doing now.
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...

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Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old

No excuse for a flippant response like that from a doctor! I'd be looking for a different one.
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
I heard on the radio, after the final pitstop, Turner Motorsport were resigned to second place. 'You're in second. Don't worry about it. First is McLaren, we aren't catching them.'
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​



See also

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Jun 10 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Jun 10 2026 vs Jun 03 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 124 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D15@103cb, TPN 1


Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
HD​
270​
-2​
1397​
SD mpeg4
144​
2​
188​
SD mpeg2
440​
RB​
Audio​
89​
Push​
26​
Slate​
19​
1​
TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
HD​
1​
1​
1​
SD mpeg4
1​
SD mpeg2
RB​
Engr Work​
29​
-11​


The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Weekly Analysis soon
US Open golf set up
Info screens about watching NBA and Stanley cup games on Local Channels
Enjoy
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Weekly Analysis for 6/10/2026:
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604 Pursuit HD is testing

Women's US Open Out, Men's US Open and World Cup in

The Vegas specific slate for KTNV is repurposing Dispute Slide 1 Test 9109
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604 Pursuit HD is testing
Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
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Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.
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So I have recently setup Indoor OTA due to drop to Local from Dish, and found out reason why I have such bad signal is my Monitor now none of cable for my monitor near OTA or it cable going to TV, but the TV right above my Monitor maybe not even a foot.

If i have 3 to 2 bars with monitor off said channel for most part of perfectly watchable, but as soon my monitor is ON (show image of desktop or what ever) OTA going to TV halved that 3 to 2 bars become 1 and 2 if I lucky and channels start scrambling alot, and depending on what is being shown on monitor it might out right give no signal, and I can easily restore singal to being bad if change what show on monitor or bring back 3 to 2 bars if I turn monitor off or let it to to standby mode.

I have already disconnect every cable on TV except the OTA cable leaving just that so it not those cable. the Power cable for monitor and DP to DVI cable the monitor is using no where near that OTA cable either.

Any idea on how to fix this? moving my monitor isnt exactly an option neither is moving the tv and moving the OTA to other side room even with long cable dont fix this issue.

I have one those Leaf MoHu antennas 11x3 ones, I had same issue with one gateway mohu antennas the older one too
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Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

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Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

no spilter is just for my tv


I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
Jimbo
no spilter is just for my tv


I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.
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Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.
Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog


Sounds like there may be some RF coming from your monitor (presumed to be a computer monitor?) being picked up by the TV's proximity to the monitor.
Move the TV or the computer at least 5 ft away.
If it is cabling to monitor it would show up while the computer is on and whether the monitor is off or on.

Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option

Maybe wrap the monitor in aluminum foil? Just as a test to see if it's radiating RFI that's overwhelming the OTA tuner. Obviously not a viable long-term fix.
worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil
Jimbo
Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog




Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option


worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil
So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...
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So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...
TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are
Can you move the Antenna away from the monitor ?
Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way
Jimbo
TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are

Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way
Well, it's grounded up to the Surge Protector anyways ... but if not 3rd prong, it's not grounded ... I don't recall if my TV's have a ground, guess I never thought about it ...
Now ya got me curious, I got to check.

Well, thats interesting, I thought all TV's were grounded ... guess not, maybe they figure if the voltage gets that far, its not going to save the TV ... :(
navychop
Double insulated.
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Double insulated.
yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest
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yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest

Something to try. Using an extension plug the TV into a completely different source of AC. Monitor may be feeding noise back into AC.
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EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.

------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
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zippyfrog
I can tell the new satellite is active... When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.
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When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.
Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...
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Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...
That is a great question. I can't check at the moment but will check if no one else is in Chicago area can chime in on where they went.
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Actually, I can't seem to add the locals back to my account to check right now - when I go to add it and I submit the changes, it shows that I have added 1802 local channels (the whole country) and nothing happens. Something must be wrong with their website. :)
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Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...
I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

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I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update Wednesday June 10, 2026 @ 1:07 A.M. CDT.

Well I made it safely to Peotone, IL and got checked in. Sitting in the vehicle right now and everything is hooked up and ran and locals changed through the App.

I only have 2 words. "Very Interesting"

This is going to take awhile to post all of this and get all of this right so I am going to be looking up some info as I type.

Chicago has tons of channels! 18! To be exact all in HD.

So let's start.

002-00 WBBM (CBS) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Comics Unleashed With Byron Allen)

005-00 WMAQ (NBC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (NBC Nightly News With Tom Llamas)

007-00 WLS (ABC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Live with Kelly and Mark)

009-00 WGN (CW) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (The Goldbergs)

011-00 WTTW (PBS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Nature)

023-00 WWME (METV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Mannix)

026-00 WCIU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows The U - Now playing: (The Perfect Line)

Time change to 1:30 AM

032-00 WFLD (FOX) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now Playing: (Sherri)

038-00 WCPX (ION) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Chicago Fire)

044-00 WSNS (TELM) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Telemundo Channel speaking Spanish.
Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

048-00 WMEU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Comedy Classics)

050-00 WPWR (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Infomercial right now playing: (Ideal Prostrate+ Provides Safe)

056-00 WYIN (PBS). SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows Lakeshore PBS - Now Playing: (Amanapour and Company)

059-00 WTVK (SHOP LC) SAT: 110 SB: 26
It is the Shop Liquidation Channel. All I get is a black background but was able to obtain satellite and spotbeam information - Shows playing in guide (which isn't) Spectacular Night Owl Jewelry Deals

060-00 WXFT (UNIMAS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
UNIMAS Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (El Chavo)

061-00 WPVN (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows WiN TV on the screen with Korean people and Korean Language - Now Playing: (WIN BNC)

062-00 WJXS (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Shows wjys The Way - Now Playing; (Paid Proograming) but a church service is showing instead.


And finally…

And a time change to 2:00 AM

066-00 WGBO (UNIV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Univision Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

Now done!

Wow! About an hour's worth!

So it appears they changed as well to the 110 Satellite and using 2 Spotbeams 12 & 26.

Got to head up to my room and get some sleep. I will be here until late afternoon tomorrow before I head up to the game and will be back here after the game tommorow night and head back home Thursday morning.

Take care everyone and have a good night and a good Wednesday and Thursday. Probably won't be back on until Thursday.

RJ T.
From Illinois
zippyfrog
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.
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