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I've recently wondered about the receivers that do and do not have the DISEqC 1.1 protocol option that controls up to 16 ports.
It's been noted here in an old 2008 thread that is closed but I question that too when I read what other sources say about switch control.
It's said that both 1.1 and 1.2 will control switches and up to 16 ports, and this struck me oddly as I never looked at 1.2 for switch control but only for motor control.
I wrote to Ma Wang at X2 and he informed me that the 1.2 will control the 8X1 switch that I want to use with his model receiver, the X2 Premium HD. I'm not able to test this before getting the receiver, which is sometime next week.
I do have other receivers that I can test this on, being that most of my stb's don't have 1.1 but do have 1.2.
My question is to question what is practiced and known here at this website. Iceberg does not mention this nor includes it as it is written by other sources. One is this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiSEqC
Look at the chart on the web page of the link above and see what I'm comparing to.
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Has anyone used DISEqC 1.2 to control an 8X1 multi switch?
Thanks Guys!
It's been noted here in an old 2008 thread that is closed but I question that too when I read what other sources say about switch control.
It's said that both 1.1 and 1.2 will control switches and up to 16 ports, and this struck me oddly as I never looked at 1.2 for switch control but only for motor control.
I wrote to Ma Wang at X2 and he informed me that the 1.2 will control the 8X1 switch that I want to use with his model receiver, the X2 Premium HD. I'm not able to test this before getting the receiver, which is sometime next week.
I do have other receivers that I can test this on, being that most of my stb's don't have 1.1 but do have 1.2.
My question is to question what is practiced and known here at this website. Iceberg does not mention this nor includes it as it is written by other sources. One is this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiSEqC
Look at the chart on the web page of the link above and see what I'm comparing to.
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Has anyone used DISEqC 1.2 to control an 8X1 multi switch?
Thanks Guys!
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@ Fat Air, you have some interesting thoughts and questions, and this point about the 4x1 sw with the 1.2 logo, and if it will control a motor on the other side (between RX and Motor) and after the 4x1 sw. I myself have not studied up much on this subject as we seem to still learn new things after many years of experience but from my experience with motor control, I have operated motors through a DiSEqC port on an EMP Centari 4x1 sw, Chieta Heavy Duty 4x1, and others, as well, and the motor will work but not so smoothly as if it were directly connected to the STB and without any switches.
The motor will and often get confused over signals, and do odd things against your user input settings. The examples are numerous, one is that it usually will confuse two sats and place them on the same assigned number and this is remedied if the Rx can edit these settings and have user assign the positions of the motor. Another is that when I try to park the motor on the 58.0W sat and scan it, it will not remain there and it will go to reference, and I can't get the motor to remember that position. It's likely due to it confusing it with another position or satellite ID, not sure how.
My new X2 Premium HD boxes did arrive and I now see how the DiSEqC 1.0 and 1,1 are setup in the Menu, and the 1.2 Motor and USALS. The X2 Prem has them all catagorized in a way that I've not seen on other stb's of my collection, too many to list but none are like the X2. The X2 has three main Option windows for setting these commands, the first is the DiSEqC 1.0 and 1.1 committed switches, it appears. This first setting scrolls through the 1.0 and 1.1 settings in one line, and the second row of numbers are 1-16.I believe it may be only for committed because it then has a second option window for setting the uncommitted switches with ports 1-16. The third option is for Motor control, alone, and USALS settings. The tweaks are plentiful in the X2 Menu options.
I have tested the X2 on a Sadoun Powertech Motor, the big one, and it's perfectly smooth in setting up with accurate and precise jogging ability for tuning.
The second setting window is Titled "Uncommitted" and seems that X2 has separated these commands as I describe. The uncommitted row are 1-16. Now, I am using a Digiwave 8X1 muti-switch DiSEqc with each receiver. I was using 4x1, and 22KHz switches in my configuration with the previous receivers cuz they didn't handle uncommitted switches, I was experiencing many problems with the use of the mentioned switches, 22KHz always failing, locking signals, slow channel changes, signal drops, etc.
I had the two 8X1 switches in my stock and wanted to try them but couldn't until now that I have this X2 STB. I can now use the Digiwave 8X1 sw in the configuration and rid of the 4x1 and 22khz switches. I'm using only one 8x1 sw with each box, and each is using the first 6 ports of the sw and the boxes work like a dream!!! They switch extremely fast and no more conflicts between LNB's as I had before. I use the first 6 port settings in the "Uncommitted" option in the X2 and did choose this after trying the first option as a committed 1.1 sw; it seemed to stumble with locking signals, and I quickly tried the uncommitted and it's a dream come true.
I'm overwhelmed with joy at this point because I can now proceed with major system configuration changes and install many new LNB's and parts that I was afraid of toasting. The X2 box works incredibly well with the Digiwave 8X1 multi-switch, and I understand after reading the specs that this switch is compatible with 1.2 motor control, (and perhaps USALS?) This switch also uses 8 diodes for full isolation of ports where other switches use only 4 diodes and parallel some commands, causing conflicts.
BTW, I also read that the Digiwave 8X1 multi-switch may be used in place of a Motor, using the 1.2 commands, and through port selection; I suppose that the switch emulates the motor positions.
Have a wonderful day!
@ Fat Air, you have some interesting thoughts and questions, and this point about the 4x1 sw with the 1.2 logo, and if it will control a motor on the other side (between RX and Motor) and after the 4x1 sw. I myself have not studied up much on this subject as we seem to still learn new things after many years of experience but from my experience with motor control, I have operated motors through a DiSEqC port on an EMP Centari 4x1 sw, Chieta Heavy Duty 4x1, and others, as well, and the motor will work but not so smoothly as if it were directly connected to the STB and without any switches.
The motor will and often get confused over signals, and do odd things against your user input settings. The examples are numerous, one is that it usually will confuse two sats and place them on the same assigned number and this is remedied if the Rx can edit these settings and have user assign the positions of the motor. Another is that when I try to park the motor on the 58.0W sat and scan it, it will not remain there and it will go to reference, and I can't get the motor to remember that position. It's likely due to it confusing it with another position or satellite ID, not sure how.
My new X2 Premium HD boxes did arrive and I now see how the DiSEqC 1.0 and 1,1 are setup in the Menu, and the 1.2 Motor and USALS. The X2 Prem has them all catagorized in a way that I've not seen on other stb's of my collection, too many to list but none are like the X2. The X2 has three main Option windows for setting these commands, the first is the DiSEqC 1.0 and 1.1 committed switches, it appears. This first setting scrolls through the 1.0 and 1.1 settings in one line, and the second row of numbers are 1-16.I believe it may be only for committed because it then has a second option window for setting the uncommitted switches with ports 1-16. The third option is for Motor control, alone, and USALS settings. The tweaks are plentiful in the X2 Menu options.
I have tested the X2 on a Sadoun Powertech Motor, the big one, and it's perfectly smooth in setting up with accurate and precise jogging ability for tuning.
The second setting window is Titled "Uncommitted" and seems that X2 has separated these commands as I describe. The uncommitted row are 1-16. Now, I am using a Digiwave 8X1 muti-switch DiSEqc with each receiver. I was using 4x1, and 22KHz switches in my configuration with the previous receivers cuz they didn't handle uncommitted switches, I was experiencing many problems with the use of the mentioned switches, 22KHz always failing, locking signals, slow channel changes, signal drops, etc.
I had the two 8X1 switches in my stock and wanted to try them but couldn't until now that I have this X2 STB. I can now use the Digiwave 8X1 sw in the configuration and rid of the 4x1 and 22khz switches. I'm using only one 8x1 sw with each box, and each is using the first 6 ports of the sw and the boxes work like a dream!!! They switch extremely fast and no more conflicts between LNB's as I had before. I use the first 6 port settings in the "Uncommitted" option in the X2 and did choose this after trying the first option as a committed 1.1 sw; it seemed to stumble with locking signals, and I quickly tried the uncommitted and it's a dream come true.
I'm overwhelmed with joy at this point because I can now proceed with major system configuration changes and install many new LNB's and parts that I was afraid of toasting. The X2 box works incredibly well with the Digiwave 8X1 multi-switch, and I understand after reading the specs that this switch is compatible with 1.2 motor control, (and perhaps USALS?) This switch also uses 8 diodes for full isolation of ports where other switches use only 4 diodes and parallel some commands, causing conflicts.
BTW, I also read that the Digiwave 8X1 multi-switch may be used in place of a Motor, using the 1.2 commands, and through port selection; I suppose that the switch emulates the motor positions.
Have a wonderful day!
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Hi, if I am reading your post correctly, I may help define the positioning system in Pansat and alike; the assigned numbers are related to the 360° configuration.
Each receiver type may represent this in various ways but the main idea is that they use simple math in determining the numbers for each position in a 360° circle. The position numbers are determined by subtraction of the satellite's geostationary positioning number, such as 110° subtracted from 360° is 250° and the receiver may assign this in a numbering system where it appears as example: 2503, or similar. Each number will have at least three digits for satellite positioning and it may or not be displayed the same way in any two receivers, although I'm sure there are some alike. Some display the positions as a 2 digit number and is not calculated in the same fashion, as this is internally coded and non-editable, except for choosing one of the predetermined positions.
Any time that you face a numbering system with 4 digit sets or similar, look at them in reference to the 360° circle of the belt and try to decipher their method. That's how I figured them out. They all use a full 360° spectrum, and all we need to do is figure out how each box defines the positions. I know, easier said than done!
Hi, if I am reading your post correctly, I may help define the positioning system in Pansat and alike; the assigned numbers are related to the 360° configuration.
Each receiver type may represent this in various ways but the main idea is that they use simple math in determining the numbers for each position in a 360° circle. The position numbers are determined by subtraction of the satellite's geostationary positioning number, such as 110° subtracted from 360° is 250° and the receiver may assign this in a numbering system where it appears as example: 2503, or similar. Each number will have at least three digits for satellite positioning and it may or not be displayed the same way in any two receivers, although I'm sure there are some alike. Some display the positions as a 2 digit number and is not calculated in the same fashion, as this is internally coded and non-editable, except for choosing one of the predetermined positions.
Any time that you face a numbering system with 4 digit sets or similar, look at them in reference to the 360° circle of the belt and try to decipher their method. That's how I figured them out. They all use a full 360° spectrum, and all we need to do is figure out how each box defines the positions. I know, easier said than done!
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product onlyUnless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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The situation w/ the Titans and Jordan Elliott is scary.
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Makes me think of the Javon Belcher murder suicide.
Titans' Jordan Elliott was released after reportedly going to retrieve a gun after dispute at practice
Jordan Elliott lasted just five games with the Titans.
Makes me think of the Javon Belcher murder suicide.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Direct YouTube Link - Left handed Duo?
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!
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Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York
Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.
Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can receive the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.
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