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Ghostfinger
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Need info about switching from 3LNB SD to HD setup

Hi, I'm hoping you can help me out. I'm still using the old Standard signal setup of a 3LNB 18X20 dish. I've never been to worried about going to HD, however I developed a problem this year that I'm thinking might be fixed by switching to an HD dish.

I moved last winter and put the dish in the only place I could and everything worked great... until the leaves came out on the neighbors trees, then I lost my locals. 119 is completely blocked 95% of the time, zero's on all transponders. If it's really windy it will come in and out a little as the branches move. No other spot to move the dish with any line of sight at all. Which means a big hassle of getting and installing a taller pole... or I was wondering...

What if I switch to HD? Those use different satellites right? My current 101 and 110 transponders come in great, all high 90's except two or three that at 88 or 89. So I'm wondering, if the HD satellites are over closer to 110 & 101 I think I could get them in fine. Of course I'll have to get an HD dish, but that will be a lot easier then putting in a new pole. My DVR is even already HD capable, it's an HR22.

So I'm wondering, knowing I have great line of sight to 101 and 110, and basically none to 119, do you think I'd be able to pick up the HD satellites and regain my locals by switching?
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raoul5788
raoul5788
:welcome to Satelliteguys Ghostfinger!

Another issue is that your local sd channels are on 119. Unless something has changed, Directv requires you to get 119 unless your sd locals come from 101, which they apparently don't. The way around this requirement is to get an independent to do the install with the sl3 lnb, or do it yourself. BTW, how did you get them to activate an HR22? It's supposed to require hd service, but you can't get hd with the dish you have.
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When you moved in last fall did you do a self install??
If so just self instal a SL3 slimline dish
Remember to change dish settings to match in receiver set up
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jdspencer
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raoul5788 said:
:welcome to Satelliteguys Ghostfinger!

Another issue is that your local sd channels are on 119. Unless something has changed, Directv requires you to get 119 unless your sd locals come from 101, which they apparently don't. The way around this requirement is to get an independent to do the install with the sl3 lnb, or do it yourself. BTW, how did you get them to activate an HR22? It's supposed to require hd service, but you can't get hd with the dish you have.
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Hopefully, DirecTV would allow the install if the subscriber also gets his locals in HD. The 119 SD local requirement shouldn't be necessary if they are.
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Ghostfinger
Thanks for the replies guys, sounds like switching will be the easy solution. Yes I did do a self install of the SD dish, and I plan on doing the same for the HD. So, sounds like all I need do is install the SL3 slimline and upgrade my package to HD.

As far as my receiver goes, my old one went bad a couple years ago and I got a used HR22. When I called to activate it on my account, they did so with no problem. I looked on directv's site and all my locals except one of two PBS stations are available in HD, and I'm not worried about losing one of two PBS stations.

I live alone and only use one receiver. My current SD LNB's have the four outputs with only two used for the DVR, I see there are some SL3 slimline LNB's like that and others with only one out and splitters for sale on Ebay. I'm thinking with my setup it would be easier to just go with the SL3 slimline LNB with four outputs. Am I right to think that, or would I need to use the single out type?

EDIT: I notice that some ads on Ebay say things like: "HD RECEIVERS NEED BBAND CONVERTER TO GET ALL HD CHANNELS". What does that mean? Do I need something besides the SL3 slimline?
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If you did your sd install, you can do the hd one. It's a little more complicated, but you can handle it, no doubt! You should get a sl3 that has four outputs, but just connect two of them, any two will do. The b band converters are necessary. Directv should sent you two with no problem, and no charge, too. They look like this:
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Cool, thanks. I now know exactly what I need to make the switch. Thanks all for your help.
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.
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Bruce
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dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

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Spectrum Loses 233,000 Internet and 77,000 TV Customers in Third Quarter As Cord Cutting 2.0 Grows | Cord Cutters News

Charter Communications reported a further erosion of its core broadband base in the third quarter of 2026, with Spectrum losing 233,000 Internet customers on a pro forma basis that incorporates the recently completed Cox acquisition. Residential accounts accounted for nearly all of the decline...
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Bruce
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and this from AI, for some reason, not on Echostar's investor page-

In the third quarter of 2026, parent company EchoStar (owner of Dish Network and Sling TV) reported a net loss of 43,000 pay-TV subscribers, compared to a drop of 64,000 in the same period last year. [1]
  • Traditional Dish Satellite TV: Experienced a net decline of approximately 188,000 subscribers, ending September 2026 with 5.89 million satellite customers. [1]
    • Sling TV (Streaming): Added roughly 145,000 net subscribers during the quarter, partially offsetting the satellite losses. [1]
    • Total Pay-TV Base: Ended the third quarter with 8.03 million total pay-TV subscribers (down from 8.07 million at the end of the second quarter)
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ewindowman
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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
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NO.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The Best Black Friday Deals for Off-Grid Comms Right Now!

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AI Hiking Advice Nearly Turns Deadly on Mount Shasta #shorts

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Google's AI Ultimatum for Schools

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Religious Exemption from Using AI?

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The Binance Crypto Heist

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HP’s Answer to the MacBook Neo? OmniBook 5 14 Review

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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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