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I recently had my dish relocated to install a SWM16.

Installer put the dish up on my roof along with the SWM16.

My question is if the grounding was done properly.

Dish -> (short run since SWM16 is on the roof) SWM16 -> (long run about 150 ft) SWM Splitter -> (short run around 20 ft) Grounding block with house ground

Hope this makes sense. I know normally you would ground before you go into the house but there is no grounding block outside of the house where the dish was relocated. If I left the dish where it was located, I would not have been able to run the 2nd cable into the house.
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In a new home (built 2012), if the dish is about 10 feet above a water faucet (for my backyard hose), can the dish be grounded to the water pipe/faucet?
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what exactly is "with house ground"? if he just tapped it a ground wire on an outlet then no. if he tied it to the main house grounding bus in the panel, then maybe.

as pointed out above, the dish itself should technically be bonded to the ground system. you can't just drive a new rod either, unless you tie that rod back properly to the main grounding electrode. I work on multimillion dollar tower sites and I can tell you proper ground bonding can get expensive quickly!

that being said, for residential use what he did should be ok. not ideal to put the block inside, but it works.
harshness
if he tied it to the main house grounding bus in the panel, then maybe.
I'm pretty sure this is NOT an acceptable dish grounding method.
harshness
In a new home (built 2012), if the dish is about 10 feet above a water faucet (for my backyard hose), can the dish be grounded to the water pipe/faucet?
Only if the faucet is within 10' of where the water service enters the home through steel pipe that has at least a 20' run AND with the understanding that all of the pipe between is conductive. If you're more than 10' away, NEC says no even if you can prove the plumbing is conductive.

New homes are increasingly using Pex plastic tubing instead of steel or copper because it is so much faster to install and cheaper. It is also highly resistant to freezing issues and typically doesn't transmit noise or vibration.
twizt3dsist3r
I'm pretty sure this is NOT an acceptable dish grounding method.


Actually nothing is wrong with that, but try to find a tech that will open up your panel if its not open already.
harshness
Actually nothing is wrong with that, but try to find a tech that will open up your panel if its not open already.
I'm thinking that the grounding bus is not recognized as a general purpose bonding point.
Hutch1814
Here ill make this an easy way to keep this from becoming an argument. Directv requires the dish be bond and ground to the home electrical ground outside. Not inside at the panel, an outlet, at a different ground. Home ground only. It should be bonded to the switch/splitter/ground block then from there a green ground to the outside home electrical ground. Anything else is considered a failed QC. So If we're going via QC guidelines this is the ONLY option. Anything else is either 1- ground N/A or 2-failed for grounding.
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Here ill make this an easy way to keep this from becoming an argument. Directv requires the dish be bond and ground to the home electrical ground outside. Not inside at the panel, an outlet, at a different ground. Home ground only. It should be bonded to the switch/splitter/ground block then from there a green ground to the outside home electrical ground. Anything else is considered a failed QC. So If we're going via QC guidelines this is the ONLY option. Anything else is either 1- ground N/A or 2-failed for grounding.

Hutch,
That "required" part is the problem. Early on I called in a job in a campground. Nobody had a landline phone (connectivity) and all the structures were sheds or trailers with generators. Any built in electric wire was without a permit and jumped from the street lighting system. A sales group had signed up many many residents........I refused to do the installs because there was no landline phone and no way to ground anything. I was back charged for being late for the jobs I refused. The next guy they sent was back charged for failing to ground the dishes.

In all cases the customer had service and DirecTv was collecting money. This was in the day of HSPs and connectivity. The message I received was to connect and shut up. Of all the topics on installation of these systems it is grounding that contains the most mythologies.

I was amused at a QC note reporting no service at an address. The e meter & house bond were indoors, as was the sat cable. Remodelers had surrounded the original building and the QC wonk could not find any service connection.

Kids!:dead:facepalm

Joe
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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