Social Feed
Using 105 and 121 birds, how many more markets can Dish add before they fill these up?! Just curious after reading some information from other boards...
~Alan
~Alan
5 Replies
·
2649 views
J
Generally speaking, each transponder can hold 12 channels and each market has about six stations of interest. The smaller markets we are now dealing with probably fit that bill more than others that have passed.
121
Given the above, a 32 transponder satellite such as 121 can host up to 64 local markets. However there seems to be a lot of space reserved for Internationals on 121, and a few that are being sold from that location.
There are currently 52 non-LIL channels on 121, enough to fill 4 1/2 transponders. If E* reinstates their plan to have 100 Internationals from 121 it would consume 9 full transponders.
Leaving only 22 for locals, or 44 markets.
There are seven markets currently being sold from 121. Which means filling 121 would allow for 37 new markets there. This does NOT leave room for mirroring HD may or may not be placed on 105 so that it may be seen in 121 markets without having two Superdishes.
105
105 is scheduled for replacement (later this year IIRC) and currently has 24 transponders of a slightly larger capacity than the 32 transponders on 121 and the other E* locations. However, the lower power of 105 is causing them to lose capacity by providing more error correction. We still can estimate the transponders at 12 channels each, but we only have 24 to begin with.
The HD currently on 105 is not being sold from that location. Most of it has been moved to 110 and shouldn't be counted against 105's capacity. CBS-HD east and west are currently on the wings.
The plan was to have 50 HD signals on 105, which would consume all of it's current capacity. With eight channels on 110, that knocks the requirement down to 42 - or 21 transponders - leaving room for only 6 local markets IF space is left for HD. Since there are already 15 markets on 105 it appears that 50 HDs is no longer a goal.
So let's guess that the two CBSs will stay and the other transponders will be all locals. 23 transponders allows for 46 markets, with 15 already being sold. 31 new markets could fit there.
Totals
37 on 121 plus 31 on 105 = room for 68 new markets beyond the 101 currently uplinked and being sold. A grand total of 169 markets.
If the new 105 satellite provides enough power to run 32 12 channel transponders then an additional 16 markets could be added then. Or 185 markets.
We need 210.
25 markets would require up to 12 more transponders.
Depending on just how small those markets are (many will not have 6 channels) they all could fit on 105-121.
Personally I'd ditch the internationals off of 121, allowing for 9 more transponders - (OK 8 more leaving the internationals that are already being sold there. ) With a couple squeezed on Dish500, they may just be able to shoehorn it in.
JL
121
Given the above, a 32 transponder satellite such as 121 can host up to 64 local markets. However there seems to be a lot of space reserved for Internationals on 121, and a few that are being sold from that location.
There are currently 52 non-LIL channels on 121, enough to fill 4 1/2 transponders. If E* reinstates their plan to have 100 Internationals from 121 it would consume 9 full transponders.
Leaving only 22 for locals, or 44 markets.
There are seven markets currently being sold from 121. Which means filling 121 would allow for 37 new markets there. This does NOT leave room for mirroring HD may or may not be placed on 105 so that it may be seen in 121 markets without having two Superdishes.
105
105 is scheduled for replacement (later this year IIRC) and currently has 24 transponders of a slightly larger capacity than the 32 transponders on 121 and the other E* locations. However, the lower power of 105 is causing them to lose capacity by providing more error correction. We still can estimate the transponders at 12 channels each, but we only have 24 to begin with.
The HD currently on 105 is not being sold from that location. Most of it has been moved to 110 and shouldn't be counted against 105's capacity. CBS-HD east and west are currently on the wings.
The plan was to have 50 HD signals on 105, which would consume all of it's current capacity. With eight channels on 110, that knocks the requirement down to 42 - or 21 transponders - leaving room for only 6 local markets IF space is left for HD. Since there are already 15 markets on 105 it appears that 50 HDs is no longer a goal.
So let's guess that the two CBSs will stay and the other transponders will be all locals. 23 transponders allows for 46 markets, with 15 already being sold. 31 new markets could fit there.
Totals
37 on 121 plus 31 on 105 = room for 68 new markets beyond the 101 currently uplinked and being sold. A grand total of 169 markets.
If the new 105 satellite provides enough power to run 32 12 channel transponders then an additional 16 markets could be added then. Or 185 markets.
We need 210.
25 markets would require up to 12 more transponders.Depending on just how small those markets are (many will not have 6 channels) they all could fit on 105-121.
Personally I'd ditch the internationals off of 121, allowing for 9 more transponders - (OK 8 more leaving the internationals that are already being sold there.
) With a couple squeezed on Dish500, they may just be able to shoehorn it in.JL
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N2oPp-plZEw
Direct YouTube Link - Agentic AI Security: Why Unconstrained Agents Alarm CISOs #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N2oPp-plZEw
Direct YouTube Link - Agentic AI Security: Why Unconstrained Agents Alarm CISOs #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
0 Replies
·
5 views
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHY_0D10LGw
Direct YouTube Link - AI, Coding, and SpinRite
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHY_0D10LGw
Direct YouTube Link - AI, Coding, and SpinRite
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
0 Replies
·
5 views
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ylZleSQCE
Direct YouTube Link - The OpenCode Cyberattack
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ylZleSQCE
Direct YouTube Link - The OpenCode Cyberattack
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
0 Replies
·
5 views
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu8iBMhokOk
Direct YouTube Link - Apple's Foldable Phone Is Finally Here
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu8iBMhokOk
Direct YouTube Link - Apple's Foldable Phone Is Finally Here
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
0 Replies
·
4 views
Staff member
HERE TO HELP YOU!
Cutting Edge
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
68579 Replies
·
2676133 views
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
29 Replies
·
768 views
I remember this in the news too...
www.nbcnews.com
$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.I remember this in the news too...
$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
Lifetime Supporter
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
126 Replies
·
2159 views
I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
0 Replies
·
21 views
Pub Member / Supporter
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank 
46 Replies
·
1138 views
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phoneHello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank
Gary
More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?
S
a good surge protector will help to.Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank
Pub Member / Supporter
Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.
11 Replies
·
87 views
Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.
God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
