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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hi,

I've been with Dish for 6 years, with Uverse for phone and internet (Uverse TV not available here). Thinking about switching to Xfinity triple play.

I'm paying $72 monthly for Uverse and $82 for Dish, total $154. I have AT120+, Multi-Sport, and 222k receiver providing HD on one TV and SD on a second, no VOD. Internet is the Uverse Elite (6Mbps speed). Xfinity is offering the HD Preferred package. I'd pay $137 monthly (plus unspecified taxes and fees) for 160+ channels (including Starz and Encore), VOD, HD on both TVs, internet with "up to" 25 Mbps, and phone service. I could get this price for 12 months with no contract. With a 2 year contract, I'd get a $200 VISA card, but the monthly fee would be higher the second year.

So for about the same price, with Xfinity I'd supposedly get more channels, VOD, HD in both rooms, and faster internet. With the no contract deal, I could go elsewhere if it doesn't work out (perhaps back to Dish as a new customer after 6 months?). I know that quite a few people don't like Comcast/Xfinity, but this deal seems worth a try. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Bill
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Folks, I went ahead and gave Xfinity a try. The internet so far is fine, much faster than Uverse, but that has nothing to do with DISH.

As for TV, Xfinity has a few more channels and a better VOD selection, I think. But Lucky hit the nail on the head with his earlier post on this thread:
"On the box my in-laws have, one of my biggest issues with it is the guide. I hate the fact that once you get to a channel you have to select watch in HD and then it flips you to another station. Other than that, the set top box they have is the worst thing I have ever used. Remote response is horrible, menus are extremely outdated and in my opinion it is not good at all. Comcast internet can be great but I would never pick up cable as my TV provider."
Agree 100%, who would have thought the channel guide would be a deal breaker? The channel guide shows every channel, you can't delete the channels you are not interested in or even the ones you are not subscribed to. And the lineup has no logic, unlike DISH where all the ESPN and sports channels are pretty much together, all the kids channels are together, etc, on Xfinity they are all mixed up.

"Keep dish. Switch to comcast internet. Go with Ooma for your home phone."
I have already receieved email asking me to come back, with $30 off for 10 months. Kind of tempting. smjbh5 may have the best idea: DISH for TV, Ooma (I have OBI100, similar) for phone, Xfinity for internet.
Bruce
Folks, I went ahead and gave Xfinity a try. The internet so far is fine, much faster than Uverse, but that has nothing to do with DISH. As for TV, Xfinity has a few more channels and a better VOD selection, I think. But Lucky hit the nail on the head with his earlier post on this thread: "On the box my in-laws have, one of my biggest issues with it is the guide. I hate the fact that once you get to a channel you have to select watch in HD and then it flips you to another station. Other than that, the set top box they have is the worst thing I have ever used. Remote response is horrible, menus are extremely outdated and in my opinion it is not good at all. Comcast internet can be great but I would never pick up cable as my TV provider." Agree 100%, who would have thought the channel guide would be a deal breaker? The channel guide shows every channel, you can't delete the channels you are not interested in or even the ones you are not subscribed to. And the lineup has no logic, unlike DISH where all the ESPN and sports channels are pretty much together, all the kids channels are together, etc, on Xfinity they are all mixed up. "Keep dish. Switch to comcast internet. Go with Ooma for your home phone." I have already receieved email asking me to come back, with $30 off for 10 months. Kind of tempting. smjbh5 may have the best idea: DISH for TV, Ooma (I have OBI100, similar) for phone, Xfinity for internet.

What Box did you get, Model#?
Tampa8
I have posted many times (Go ahead - look it up lol) Generally the best deal is DISH (Or Direct) based on equipment and other factors over getting Cable, then get the best deal you can with cable internet, and get a separate VOIP provider such as Voicepulse (most features of anyone) or OOma, or Vonage, etc... That will give the best services for a decent "bundled" cost. Charter internet makes it hard to get a good deal - at the same time makes it easy!! Hard because you can't get a discount price for a year, but easy because you just need to call every three or four months and renew the discount.
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What Box did you get, Model#?
My box says RNG150N, no manufacturer indicated, but my account says MOTOROLA PR150BNMR. I have my own DVR so did not want to pay the monthly DVR fee and get an X1 or X2.
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Generally the best deal is DISH (Or Direct) based on equipment and other factors over getting Cable, then get the best deal you can with cable internet, and get a separate VOIP provider such as Voicepulse (most features of anyone) or OOma, or Vonage, etc... That will give the best services for a decent "bundled" cost. Charter internet makes it hard to get a good deal - at the same time makes it easy!! Hard because you can't get a discount price for a year, but easy because you just need to call every three or four months and renew the discount.
I'm beginning to agree with you. I have an OBI100 with a free Callcentric number, works great. Xfinity 25mps internet, without bundling, costs $62 monthly. The fastest Uverse interest available here is 6mps, without bundling it is $46 monthly. I can notice a difference, although maybe not enough to be worth $16 a month. As for TV, as mentioned above I'm not happy about the channel guide and channel order, and prefer DISH to what I've seen so far, although Xfinity does have a nice VOD selection.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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I truly hope you are right.
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