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I've been with dish since quite a while back, when we had it as a part of an AT&T bundle. Its been a number of years since that went on its own, and we've gone through one iteration of hardware (started with the black SD DVR), and our current hardware will be here for 3 years in March.
There are only two of us now, my Wife and myself. We have 3 bedrooms, a living room and a basement rec-room. All 5 TVs are connected to dish using 3 devices. Two VIP622's (one as of last night just added 1TB USB for archiving), and one VIP211K
A while back our primary (our bedroom/livingroom) VIP622 hard drive started failing requiring unplugging the unit and restarting and it'd work for a couple weeks and then happen again. After a couple of those instances of the error I swapped it with the one that runs the two "now guestrooms". We dropped the insurance before that when I learned you can add it when needed. The Rec-room has the VIP211K
We have absolutely no need for DVR in the guest rooms, that unit has the hard drive disconnected now so that it doesn't explode or complain about a hard drive failure. I'd actually rather it be a nonDVR as it currently acts for power usage and no future hardware problems if we were to replace it. But I think I might still be paying extra money due to having it on the account than if it was a simple non-DVR duo receiver.
Can someone explain if I am paying extra for that receiver being a DVR with us not using the functionality? My equipment has always been leased. Here is my bill:
64.99 Top 200 (have to have this or the misses would not get her crime solving networks and lifetime movie network)
17.00 HD/SD 2TV DVR Receiver
7.00 DVR Service
7.00 HD Receiver
Total 95.99 before taxes, 100.83 after taxes.
If I am, is there a worthwhile way to swap the unit, by buying a duo non-dvr on ebay or something? We aren't attached to having HD in one of the guest rooms anyway like we have today, they could both be SD even though they have 40something inch HD TVs, they are very low useage TVs. I love being not under contract, piece of mind for me worth more than getting something for free.
Side question: Is the 622 still locked to the same original shipping hard drive models, or is the sw/fw upgraded to allow better replacement? I don't recall if that was IDE or IDE and SATA connectors internal. Just thinking for our current primary use one if its drive were to blow in the future.
I've been with dish since quite a while back, when we had it as a part of an AT&T bundle. Its been a number of years since that went on its own, and we've gone through one iteration of hardware (started with the black SD DVR), and our current hardware will be here for 3 years in March.There are only two of us now, my Wife and myself. We have 3 bedrooms, a living room and a basement rec-room. All 5 TVs are connected to dish using 3 devices. Two VIP622's (one as of last night just added 1TB USB for archiving), and one VIP211K
A while back our primary (our bedroom/livingroom) VIP622 hard drive started failing requiring unplugging the unit and restarting and it'd work for a couple weeks and then happen again. After a couple of those instances of the error I swapped it with the one that runs the two "now guestrooms". We dropped the insurance before that when I learned you can add it when needed. The Rec-room has the VIP211K
We have absolutely no need for DVR in the guest rooms, that unit has the hard drive disconnected now so that it doesn't explode or complain about a hard drive failure. I'd actually rather it be a nonDVR as it currently acts for power usage and no future hardware problems if we were to replace it. But I think I might still be paying extra money due to having it on the account than if it was a simple non-DVR duo receiver.
Can someone explain if I am paying extra for that receiver being a DVR with us not using the functionality? My equipment has always been leased. Here is my bill:
64.99 Top 200 (have to have this or the misses would not get her crime solving networks and lifetime movie network)
17.00 HD/SD 2TV DVR Receiver
7.00 DVR Service
7.00 HD Receiver
Total 95.99 before taxes, 100.83 after taxes.
If I am, is there a worthwhile way to swap the unit, by buying a duo non-dvr on ebay or something? We aren't attached to having HD in one of the guest rooms anyway like we have today, they could both be SD even though they have 40something inch HD TVs, they are very low useage TVs. I love being not under contract, piece of mind for me worth more than getting something for free.
Side question: Is the 622 still locked to the same original shipping hard drive models, or is the sw/fw upgraded to allow better replacement? I don't recall if that was IDE or IDE and SATA connectors internal. Just thinking for our current primary use one if its drive were to blow in the future.
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I really appreciate the suggestions and information folks. Here's what I've done with it. last weekend I ordered another diplexer, the DPD2 on eBay for $2 free shipping. It arrived today and I then tested my basements 211k using it where the 622 upstairs is, it worked and fed both TV's one hdmi and one channel 3 using the diplexer just like the 622 did. I then put a post on Craigslist (Milwaukee) tonight under wanted for a 211 or 311 dish network receiver from a paid up account. if I'm able to acquire one after I verify its balance, ill see if dish will activate it and deactivate the 622 at the same time without a new contract and fee. I'm a year off contract so I should have decent leverage if I keep trying, not afraid to try calling multiple times.
This should reduce my $17 622 charge to a $7 charge and save $120 a year.
... update - I don't know why I'm just thinking about this now as a real option, since all the wiring is there. Probably because I traced everything and diagrammed it out and understand exactly what I need to do. And maybe my mind didn't want to make too drastic a change or something. I'm going to set it up today - use the 211k in basement, pull the 622 out of the system, and put the UHF diplexers into service with the 211k, and a normal TV splitter to feed BOTH spare 2nd floor rooms off the output of the uhf part of the 2nd diplexer. All the wiring is there and I already diagrammed it. The Dish installer had left a few loops of slack on every wire to begin with that will aid me on this
Only thing left to do after that is order the Dish UHF Remote Kit for $40, I've got 3 UHF remotes to use with it already with those 2 rooms. I see that kit available online on eBay and parts sites, maybe when I call Dish do disable the 622 today I can get better deal on it.
Savings $17/month.
This should reduce my $17 622 charge to a $7 charge and save $120 a year.
... update - I don't know why I'm just thinking about this now as a real option, since all the wiring is there. Probably because I traced everything and diagrammed it out and understand exactly what I need to do. And maybe my mind didn't want to make too drastic a change or something. I'm going to set it up today - use the 211k in basement, pull the 622 out of the system, and put the UHF diplexers into service with the 211k, and a normal TV splitter to feed BOTH spare 2nd floor rooms off the output of the uhf part of the 2nd diplexer. All the wiring is there and I already diagrammed it. The Dish installer had left a few loops of slack on every wire to begin with that will aid me on this
Only thing left to do after that is order the Dish UHF Remote Kit for $40, I've got 3 UHF remotes to use with it already with those 2 rooms. I see that kit available online on eBay and parts sites, maybe when I call Dish do disable the 622 today I can get better deal on it.
Savings $17/month.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.
Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can receive the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.
Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.
DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.
Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.
Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.
DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.
Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.
Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.
DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.
Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.
But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.
But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!
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I've been using APC UPS units to protect my computer and Home Theater equipment for many years, but now there are a number of companies producing "Glamping" power accessories that can provide hours of 120 VAC power for off-grid use at a camp site or a few hours of power when severe weather knock out the power. I had mentioned elsewhere that I picked up a Jackery HomePower 3000 to use instead of a gasoline generator to provide emergency power for our refrigerator. The 3.0 kWh of Lithium Iron Phosphate battery cells can supply power for over 24 hours and is "light" enough that I can move it into the kitchen to allow it to power the fridge. However, it's not an automatic operation, as I need to move it from its home in the closet to the kitchen, in addition to rolling the refrigerator out from its alcove so I can plug it in.
The Jackery wasn't my first LFP Power Bank; I had purchased an EcoFlow River 2 unit with 512 Wh of capacity. I had purchased this to use on our Home LAN to give it a longer run time than the three hours that I had with the APC UPS I had been using. This isn't an odd use case, EcoFlow advertises this capability on its website and a transfer time of 16 mS. I used this River 2 to supply power to a 16-port Cisco gigabit switch, the AT&T router, Printer Server, MoCA adapter, and surveillance camera NAS. All told, about 35 W of load. With the EcoFlow River 2, it reported approximately 12-13 hours of run time. So far, so good.
After it had been in use for a month or so, I was down in the basement and heard a whirling sound. Turns out the State of Charge was 24% and it appeared the River 2 was off-grid even though it was still plugged in. Well, turns out that the firmware had a big bug in it for people that were using it like I was. I communicated with EcoFlow and eventually they sent a newer firmware that fixed this problem. But before they fixed it, I decided that I had such a good experience with the Jackery, that I bought their Explorer 1000 (1,070 Wh capacity) which should run our home network for over a day. It worked great right out of the box, and even when it was charging, the cooling fan was practically silent.
After the River 2 was patched, I put it to work, replacing the APC UPS powering the bedroom TV with Dish 4K Joey and Apple TV. The LG OLED uses quite a lot more power than I expected, depending on the scene, it can have a 120 Watt power draw. With the River 2, that might limit power-out watching to 4-5 hours. Also, the River 2 still had the issue with its cooling fan, I find it disturbing the quiet bedroom environment.
EcoFlow had one of the Spring sales and have a new EcoFlow Delta 3 1000 Air which was on sale for $299. That's a 960 Wh capacity power bank with a 10 ms power switching, so this seemed like a perfect solution. Well, except for two things: 1) It has one grounded NEMA 5-15 receptacle; 2) even though EcoFlow claims "35 dB @ 1m" quietness, it was even louder that the River 2 was. Not optimal!
So, I ended up swapping the Jackery Explorer 1000 with the EcoFlow Delta 3 1000 Air since the power demands for the Home LAN are less, and the loud fan noise won't bother anyone. The bedroom TV setup says it should be good for approximately 7 hours:
I realize that at some point the amount of money spent on these individual long-term Power Backup solutions will be more expensive than if we just bought a whole-house power solution. Those are coming down in price, but we're still looking at $16,000 at a minimum for a LFP solution, and $10,000 or so for a home LP generator solution. (With the LP generator solution, we would need to also pay the Gas utility to increase the size of our gas line, so that tilts me towards a the battery solution.)
Finally, I tried an Amazon 12 VDC LFP battery that replaces the Lead Acid Gel Cell in a normal UPS with an equivalent set of LFP cells. The price was roughly the same as a 12 VDC battery from Batteries+, and it's been running for about a year now with no difficulty. But these APC UPS units won't run for long, and are really intended to allow the powered equipment to be shut down in an orderly manner.
So, am I weird to use these Camping power banks for Home emergency power solutions? I haven't even touched the idea of Solar panels to supplement the run time in an Outage.
After it had been in use for a month or so, I was down in the basement and heard a whirling sound. Turns out the State of Charge was 24% and it appeared the River 2 was off-grid even though it was still plugged in. Well, turns out that the firmware had a big bug in it for people that were using it like I was. I communicated with EcoFlow and eventually they sent a newer firmware that fixed this problem. But before they fixed it, I decided that I had such a good experience with the Jackery, that I bought their Explorer 1000 (1,070 Wh capacity) which should run our home network for over a day. It worked great right out of the box, and even when it was charging, the cooling fan was practically silent.
After the River 2 was patched, I put it to work, replacing the APC UPS powering the bedroom TV with Dish 4K Joey and Apple TV. The LG OLED uses quite a lot more power than I expected, depending on the scene, it can have a 120 Watt power draw. With the River 2, that might limit power-out watching to 4-5 hours. Also, the River 2 still had the issue with its cooling fan, I find it disturbing the quiet bedroom environment.
EcoFlow had one of the Spring sales and have a new EcoFlow Delta 3 1000 Air which was on sale for $299. That's a 960 Wh capacity power bank with a 10 ms power switching, so this seemed like a perfect solution. Well, except for two things: 1) It has one grounded NEMA 5-15 receptacle; 2) even though EcoFlow claims "35 dB @ 1m" quietness, it was even louder that the River 2 was. Not optimal!
So, I ended up swapping the Jackery Explorer 1000 with the EcoFlow Delta 3 1000 Air since the power demands for the Home LAN are less, and the loud fan noise won't bother anyone. The bedroom TV setup says it should be good for approximately 7 hours:
I realize that at some point the amount of money spent on these individual long-term Power Backup solutions will be more expensive than if we just bought a whole-house power solution. Those are coming down in price, but we're still looking at $16,000 at a minimum for a LFP solution, and $10,000 or so for a home LP generator solution. (With the LP generator solution, we would need to also pay the Gas utility to increase the size of our gas line, so that tilts me towards a the battery solution.)
Finally, I tried an Amazon 12 VDC LFP battery that replaces the Lead Acid Gel Cell in a normal UPS with an equivalent set of LFP cells. The price was roughly the same as a 12 VDC battery from Batteries+, and it's been running for about a year now with no difficulty. But these APC UPS units won't run for long, and are really intended to allow the powered equipment to be shut down in an orderly manner.
So, am I weird to use these Camping power banks for Home emergency power solutions? I haven't even touched the idea of Solar panels to supplement the run time in an Outage.
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I would not trust a UPS designed for lead acid to properly charge, discharge and maintain a LFP battery.
Sounds like it'd be cheaper to move where the power is more dependable. Like near me. Quite a few houses in this neighborhood go for less than $1M.
Are you weird? If you seriously consider moving for this - YES!
Sounds like it'd be cheaper to move where the power is more dependable. Like near me. Quite a few houses in this neighborhood go for less than $1M.
Are you weird? If you seriously consider moving for this - YES!