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I have two 625 dual tuner receivers and one LNBF quad. Receiver "A" is in building 1 and Receiver "B" in building 2. The dish with quad LNBF is attached to building 2. Two cables run to each receiver. Everything was working fine until recently.
Here's the problem: For the last couple of months, receiver "A" loses access to some channels about half the time. Receiver "B" works perfectly all the time. If I disconnect receiver "B", the problem with receiver "A" goes away! It's not enough to just power it down and unplug it; the dish cable must be removed from "B" to cure the problem with "A"
I tried these things:
Replaced the LNBF – no change.
Swapped the DP Quad for a DPP Twin + Separators – no change.
Traded places with the receivers – no change.
Moved receiver "A" to building 2 with receiver "B". Ran a temporary coax to the DPP Twin. SUCCESS! Both receivers work perfectly.
I seem to have isolated the problem to a segment of coax. The segment is about 100 feet long and is in buried corrugated drain pipe. It's not watertight. The cable is old ribbon cable from when I had a C-band dish.
Anyone ever seen this kind of cable problem before? Troubleshooting cable for continuity is easy but I don't know how to test it for "dicey", other than how I did it.
Here's the problem: For the last couple of months, receiver "A" loses access to some channels about half the time. Receiver "B" works perfectly all the time. If I disconnect receiver "B", the problem with receiver "A" goes away! It's not enough to just power it down and unplug it; the dish cable must be removed from "B" to cure the problem with "A"
I tried these things:
Replaced the LNBF – no change.
Swapped the DP Quad for a DPP Twin + Separators – no change.
Traded places with the receivers – no change.
Moved receiver "A" to building 2 with receiver "B". Ran a temporary coax to the DPP Twin. SUCCESS! Both receivers work perfectly.
I seem to have isolated the problem to a segment of coax. The segment is about 100 feet long and is in buried corrugated drain pipe. It's not watertight. The cable is old ribbon cable from when I had a C-band dish.
Anyone ever seen this kind of cable problem before? Troubleshooting cable for continuity is easy but I don't know how to test it for "dicey", other than how I did it.
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The saga continues. I have an update at the bottom of my responses:
Renegade, Everything's kosher with the hot and neutral - tested them to be sure. I did some detective work and found some "interesting" things with my grounding. Both buildings are on the same power meter (OK). Power runs from the meter to a splitter box, and each has its own service panel (OK). Each service panel has its own ground rod and they are NOT bonded to each other (NOT OK). This is a no-no since there could be a difference in potential between the two grounds. I bought a roll of stranded #6 to address this.
dvrexpander, I don't know the frequency rating of the cable. It's very old (maybe 20 years) and it's not stamped on it. I've been running the 625 receiver on that cable for about 6 years with no problems.
hudgreen, yes they are on the same meter and separate panels as described above to Renegade. The 2 buildings' grounds are NOT bonded together
I can fix that. The ground for the dish is a separate ground, not bonded to the building ground. I can fix that too. I am curious to see what the coax voltage is at building 2 - I'll check that and report back. But, since the problem happens even when receiver B is unplugged from electric, I don't see how non-bonded grounds could have an effect. Something I didn't think to check, though, was to see if unplugging the TV audio & video cables from the receiver would have any effect; it was still plugged into electric and attached to the receiver while having the problem. I've had these receivers sharing one LNB for about 6 years so something has changed. Yesterday I ran a separate coax to receiver 1 (to bypass the old buried coax) and this did not fix the problem. It's worth noting it was an old piece of "satellite foam rg6", about 100 feet long, that I had coiled up in by shop for about 15 years.
The grounding errors are a safety concern and I'll be fixing those. For whatever reason the 2 receivers no longer like being connected to the same LNB, so I made the problem go away by mounting a second dish at building 1. Problem solved!
Renegade, Everything's kosher with the hot and neutral - tested them to be sure. I did some detective work and found some "interesting" things with my grounding. Both buildings are on the same power meter (OK). Power runs from the meter to a splitter box, and each has its own service panel (OK). Each service panel has its own ground rod and they are NOT bonded to each other (NOT OK). This is a no-no since there could be a difference in potential between the two grounds. I bought a roll of stranded #6 to address this.
dvrexpander, I don't know the frequency rating of the cable. It's very old (maybe 20 years) and it's not stamped on it. I've been running the 625 receiver on that cable for about 6 years with no problems.
hudgreen, yes they are on the same meter and separate panels as described above to Renegade. The 2 buildings' grounds are NOT bonded together
I can fix that. The ground for the dish is a separate ground, not bonded to the building ground. I can fix that too. I am curious to see what the coax voltage is at building 2 - I'll check that and report back. But, since the problem happens even when receiver B is unplugged from electric, I don't see how non-bonded grounds could have an effect. Something I didn't think to check, though, was to see if unplugging the TV audio & video cables from the receiver would have any effect; it was still plugged into electric and attached to the receiver while having the problem. I've had these receivers sharing one LNB for about 6 years so something has changed. Yesterday I ran a separate coax to receiver 1 (to bypass the old buried coax) and this did not fix the problem. It's worth noting it was an old piece of "satellite foam rg6", about 100 feet long, that I had coiled up in by shop for about 15 years. The grounding errors are a safety concern and I'll be fixing those. For whatever reason the 2 receivers no longer like being connected to the same LNB, so I made the problem go away by mounting a second dish at building 1. Problem solved!
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit 
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A Shaw dish with the linear LNBFs are as rare as hens teeth in the US...
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View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.
That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.
Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.
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