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Comcast Digital Phone Service - Worth It??

*I posted this on the Comcast Board a few day ago; I got no responce. Maybe some of you have it??*

We've had SBC (local and long distance) for a year and their prices are so outrageous (over $100.00 a month) I was really wanting to change to ANY other company. When I went to the mailbox today I saw a flyer that offered Comcast Digital Phone for $24.95 a month for 12 months and decided to sign up.

Does anyone have their phone service? Has anyone heard anything +/or/- about it?? Thanks.

(I also shelled out 5.95 for the extra features like V.M, C.ID, CW, CWID)
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SBC acts like vultures; I don't trust them. As for Vonage, well, I am not using them, although I have heard really positive things about them.
I don't think Comcast Digital Phone uses a broadband connection (I may be wrong) I think they use copper wire - in this area.
I wonder why you had such a bad time with Vonage?
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Shawn95GT
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Vonage

If outbound callers are complaining of breakup then you were saturating your uplink. I've implemented QoS to fix that at my place. I'm on a 4.0/512 link. My webserver here didn't help matters much but even just lots of web traffic can kill you uplink (requests and acks).

Vonage isn't perfect but it's SO much cheaper that the minor inconveniences (10 digit dialing, goofy call waiting beep, location tracing 800 numbers think you are calling from NJ) are worth it... to me. Unlimited calling to anywhere in the US or Canada.. $27.44/mo taxes and all. I just added a toll free number for inbound calls and I'm now paying a total of $33/mo with taxes included. Unlike teclos, Tax for Vonage is a couple dollars vs 30%+ of the bill.

That being said.... The local cable / telcos are almost subsidising their phone service to compete. Cox had their unlimited phone package down to $35 for a while there (now back to $45/mo) and this is before tax. The multi-service disocunts almost make phone service free. That's hard to argue with.

Feel free to PM me if anyone wants a Vonage referal :).

I had Cox's phone service and Qwest before them. Cox phone was fine when it was up. It would periodically crap out where your phone would just go dead. You'd never notice unless you happened to try to dial out when it was down.

Qwest's phone service just always worked - period.

Vonage craps out when the Internet conenction goes down. It fails over to my Cell automatically and switches back to Vonage when the Internet comes back up. It even works with my home alarm.
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Shawn95GT said:
If outbound callers are complaining of breakup then you were saturating your uplink. I've implemented QoS to fix that at my place. I'm on a 4.0/512 link. My webserver here didn't help matters much but even just lots of web traffic can kill you uplink (requests and acks).
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That may well be, but all tests show that my upload speed is 384Kbps, and I have the Vonage quality set to the lowest (30Kbps) AND have the QOS feature enabled in the Vonage router and set to 256Kbps. Still, the problem occurs when nothing is happening on my network. Beyond changing the bitrate, there's nothing you can do when you have problems, and all Vonage can say is "your line is saturated" (and usually in broken, nearly unintelligible English to boot).

I think someday that VOIP will be great. Perhaps it's better if you can get the service from the same provider that provides Internet access. But between choppy audio, lag, echos, and highly variable technical support, it's really hard to recommend VOIP, and specifically Vonage, at this time.

Shawn95GT said:
Vonage isn't perfect but it's SO much cheaper that the minor inconveniences (10 digit dialing, goofy call waiting beep, location tracing 800 numbers think you are calling from NJ) are worth it... to me. Unlimited calling to anywhere in the US or Canada.. $27.44/mo taxes and all. I just added a toll free number for inbound calls and I'm now paying a total of $33/mo with taxes included. Unlike teclos, Tax for Vonage is a couple dollars vs 30%+ of the bill.
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Yup, it is very cheap. And the features are really cool. I think someday it will be a great solution, but for now, it's more frustration than it's worth. How much of your time fiddling with routers and calling tech support does it take to eat up a $15 or $20 savings?

Jeff
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When I had a 256k uplink it was REAL bad. I then went to a 1.5/768 line. This sounded line crap on my end (downloads were saturating my Internet connection). I too found that the built in QoS in the DTa was all but worthless.

Not daunted I went out and picked up a Linksys WRT54GS and a subscription to Sveasoft and I've had QoS up and running in various states for close to a year now.

The 1.5 meg downlink was presenting a problem as you can't really control what is coming down the pipe to you.. only what you ask for (uplink). randomly dropping inbound packets resulted in choppy voice quality on my end.

I changed ISPs again and am now on a 4.0/512 line and it works pretty good. My DTA is has priority over all other traffic in and out of my router and it's almost seamless that I'm using VoIP.

As with anything, you are at the mercy of the infrastucture so adding a half dozen or more router hops between me and Vonage gives plenty of places for things to go wrong... and they do. It is livable for me.

I think the Cable companies that are offering 'digital telephone' service are doing VoIP. It's all intranet to them so QoS and bandwidth isn't a problem.

Doing anything over the Internet is a crapshoot. Like I said before it's VERY livable for me. It is most definately not same/same as what you get from the local telco. The savings for me is consistantly $30 a month or more. I had regular phone bills bettering $100 before I went to Vonage.

The taxes are the real killer with traditional phone service. VoIP being exempt from most of the telco taxes is what keeps 'em cheap.
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*I posted this on the Comcast Board a few day ago; I got no responce. Maybe some of you have it??*

We've had SBC (local and long distance) for a year and their prices are so outrageous (over $100.00 a month) I was really wanting to change to ANY other company. When I went to the mailbox today I saw a flyer that offered Comcast Digital Phone for $24.95 a month for 12 months and decided to sign up.

Does anyone have their phone service? Has anyone heard anything +/or/- about it?? Thanks.

(I also shelled out 5.95 for the extra features like V.M, C.ID, CW, CWID)
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I have had Comcast Digital since it was offered here in Chicago. My best guess is about 6 or 8 years. I have two lines with unlimited calling. The monthy bill is $69.00. Comcast gives you free with the service three upgrades CW, CID and others. I have only had a couple of outages in all these years. Calling into Indiana & Wisconsin is a local call. I would never switch back to SBC.

My TV service is Dish. Once installed run a 75ohm cable from the Comcast network box to your TV and see what happens.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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AI Hiking Advice Nearly Turns Deadly on Mount Shasta #shorts

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Religious Exemption from Using AI?

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The Binance Crypto Heist

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HP’s Answer to the MacBook Neo? OmniBook 5 14 Review

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I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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dishstaller said:
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Godzilla Minus Zero


View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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dfergie said:

View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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primestar31 said:
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
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New trailer has dropped:
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Looks good! I'm interested...
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