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Last reply Apr 30, 2014 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Emailed FCC commissioners about receiving out of state locals.

Yesterday I emailed the FCC commissioners about receiving out of state locals. I told them if we are able to listen to out of market radio stations and subscribe to out of market newspaper. We should be able to subscribe to out of market locals. I think it's important to voice our opinions to them, they can do something about it. I will keep you guys posted if I hear anything from them, I know they will not reply...but you never know.

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radio

Apr 26, 2014

Long ago, in the "C-band" (big dish) heyday, we could subscribe to any available out of market "locals." In fact, when the restrictions came to the small dish market ON that topic, Big dish subscribers could STILL order certain (available) distant network locals. Some of us had to have been "grandfathered" and prove we were subscribers prior to a certain date, but we could do it!

Now that I don't subscribe to anything via satellite, (Over the air, Free to Air and Netflix/free 'net TV only) I'm always grateful when a feed pops up of a distant station.

I agree, we SHOULD be able to do it on any subscription platform where the distant signal is made available. One argument I remember, (help me, readers, there may have been others) was that we were not watching the "local" advertisers when on distant networks, thus hurting the local affiliate. Not logical at all. it's not like we were going to take our business THOUSANDS of miles away to the distant network's advertisers (as opposed to local) when we shopped for goods and services! Those watching far away network affiliates still had to shop LOCALLY for most products! Remember the days of having to get waivers from your affiliates? What a joke! You had a better chance of winning the biggest lotto jackpot in the nation! (Is that waiver thing still going on?? I'm obviously out of that loop.)

It'll be interesting to see if you get any response at all. Good luck to you!

dare2be

Apr 26, 2014

radio said:
One argument I remember, was that we were not watching the "local" advertisers when on distant networks, thus hurting the local affiliate. Not logical at all. it's not like we were going to take our business THOUSANDS of miles away to the distant network's advertisers (as opposed to local) when we shopped for goods and services!

That is true, but the real hurt on the local affiliate is fewer local eyes on a local channel translates into lower neilsen ratings, which lowers ad revenue for the station. I see the argument from both sides, and the best compromise I think would be to require a local channel subscription (or included in your package) before allowing a subscription to an out-of-market local set. I would pay extra to have access to more than one market even if one of them had to be my physical area.

thomasjk

Apr 29, 2014

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renegade734

Apr 29, 2014

dare2be said:
That is true, but the real hurt on the local affiliate is fewer local eyes on a local channel translates into lower neilsen ratings, which lowers ad revenue for the station. I see the argument from both sides, and the best compromise I think would be to require a local channel subscription (or included in your package) before allowing a subscription to an out-of-market local set. I would pay extra to have access to more than one market even if one of them had to be my physical area.

It will only translate into lower Nielsen ratings if Nielsen families are subscribers to distant locals. How many of those are there nowadays?

Disclaimer: I was a Nielsen household and a distant/Superstations subscriber for almost two years. What a pain in the @$$ that was. Someday, I will tell my story.

dare2be

Apr 29, 2014

renegade734 said:
It will only translate into lower Nielsen ratings if Nielsen families are subscribers to distant locals. How many of those are there nowadays?

Disclaimer: I was a Nielsen household and a distant/Superstations subscriber for almost two years. What a pain in the @$$ that was. Someday, I will tell my story.

That is true in practicality, but when have the NAB lobbyists ever been practical? They want their exclusive laws no matter what.

I won't go into my rant about the antiquated ratings gathering process that should have been wiped out/modernized years ago.

TNGTony

Apr 29, 2014

dare2be said:
That is true in practicality, but when have the NAB lobbyists ever been practical? They want their exclusive laws no matter what..

Once again, most people have it BACKWARDS. The laws needed are to OVERRULE the contractual agreements stations have with program providers, not the other way around. As I said in my previous ignored post in this thread, station buy programming for their region. They pay EXTRA to make that programming purchase an exclusive to their area. The program provider AGREES to sell the program EXCLUSIVELY to one station in each region. All the feds can do is OVERRULE a contract between two private individuals (corporations).

Tony

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Apr 30, 2014

If they can sell the same show 200+ times, that is what they want to do...

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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It's a known issue.
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I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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