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Need Help Troubleshooting Check Switch on Hopper 2000 and Hopper with Sling--Long Post

Recently had an issue with my Hopper with Sling no longer providing IPs across the entire network (H, HWS, 4 Joeys) using bridging. Got that resolved after multiple reboots. So while at it, I decided to also do a check switch. That is when things got interesting. The results of the check switches were fewer satellites, but inconsistent which ones! It could be all red Xs, or 119 plus two red Xs, or 110 with two red Xs, or 129 with two red Xs. Plus every other combination possible. Here is the weird part: I was always able to watch programming off of all three birds even though check switch showed red Xs. Before asking Dish to replace my Hopper with Sling, I talked to advanced tech support for ideas. They tried their best but were also baffled. Since I own my dishes, lnbfs and switches--and always have spares--I put in a new DuoNode. That did not make any difference. So next I replaced the DPP33 with a new one. Still no improvement. Next, tightened all connectors. Still no change. Also tried running a check switch on the Hopper 2000. It also warned me that fewer satellites were detected--so I was smart enough this time not to save that configuration! Went back to the HWS and kept running check switches and watching the various configurations showing up until finally all three birds showed up green. So I saved that one!

Some would say not to screw with it any more since everything is working fine. Probably good advice, but I have a burning desire to learn what the hell is going on. My experience would say Hopper software changes do not expect to see my non-standard configuration install (two separate dishes and three single low-noise DishPro lnbfs feeding a DPP33 into a DuoNode).

Dish would be happy to send out a tech, but I have always prided myself in doing it on my own. (I have never had a tech out to either install or repair my Dish setup. That has worked for me for over 15 years.)

What I do not understand is how can MoCA be all green, all satellites signals fine, and every bird able to be watched even after check switch cannot find the satellites.

Thoughts appreciated!

Bob
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rdinkel said:
My experience would say Hopper software changes do not expect to see my non-standard configuration install (two separate dishes and three single low-noise DishPro lnbfs feeding a DPP33 into a DuoNode).

Dish would be happy to send out a tech, but I have always prided myself in doing it on my own. (I have never had a tech out to either install or repair my Dish setup. That has worked for me for over 15 years.)

What I do not understand is how can MoCA be all green, all satellites signals fine, and every bird able to be watched even after check switch cannot find the satellites.

Thoughts appreciated!

Bob
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Your install isn't really all that non-standard. I have 3 singles as well, with 3 switches and 2 nodes and a gaggle of other "non standard" stuff going on. Also keep in mind that MOCA has nothing to do with the satellite signals. You could disconnect the sat feeds from the node and still have green moca everywhere.

More often than not when I ran into unusual check switch results on any dish receivers, it was either a bad cable, low frequency barrel or wall plate somewhere in the line, or a strange electrical issue/bad ground. Just because it's been working fine for a long period of time doesn't mean that it can't cause a problem down the road. That's where I would start.
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After extensive checking of all cables, etc., I have confirmed that there is nothing wrong with my installation. What I have found is that my non-standard configuration causes issues with at least the latest software when running check switch on both Hopper and Hopper with Sling. But I also found a work-around for these issues. By turning "Alternate" on before running the check switch, all satellites and tuners come up green. Without "Alternate" on, the three separate LNBFs that I use are not recognized by check switch and instead generate error messages. The errors reflect non-DP LNBF even though they are in fact Dish DP single LNBFs. What is unique about the LNBFs that I am using is that they are specifically intended only for use in Alaska and Hawaii. These lower-noise LNBFs apparently no longer match check switch expected components when using DPP33 switch in CONUS. Changing to "Alternate" allows check switch to ignore these LNBFs and find all satellites and tuners. The DPP33 is correctly identified, but instead of listing the LNBFs by type, the terms Feed (1), Feed (2), and Feed (3) are used.
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Bottom Line: There is a work-around which enables check switch to be run (which will be important should I ever replace a Hopper), and all programming and functionality are available across my 2 H/4 J installation.
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lucky86
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The alternate setting checks non conus transponders. Where are you located?

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lucky86 said:
The alternate setting checks non conus transponders. Where are you located?
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Colorado. I talked with advanced tech support again today and they confirmed that even non-standard configurations (such as used by RVs) and Alaska and Hawaii unique equipment often only work when Alternate is on. In any event, this fixed my issues using Hawaii-specific LNBFs.
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I don't know about the validity of that confirmation. I doubt that question comes up very often.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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