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I've been reading this forum for months now, learning and weighing that most important of Life Decisions, what HD satellite system to buy. ;) The information has been great, as well as the banter.

After careful comparison, I find that the channels I really watch are on both systems, in closely priced packages, (giving E* a slight edge), and it really comes down to equipment, quality, and the intangible elements.

Give me some feedback on why I should choose E* over D*. I am looking at a 2 receiver setup with an 811 and a DVR of some level. I am not interested in what equipment may come down the pike some day, but gear that is out there today. The 921 is out cause it has too many bugs (IMO), but the 811 just squeaks in. I am going to post this in the D* forum as well.

Convince me E* is the way to go.
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Go to (click on public for new promotion info)

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SlicerMDM said:
Dishnetwork owns 6 Slots (4 for Super Dish and 2 for Wings) Direct owns (3 for there 2lnb dish, and trying to get one wing Permissions from the FCC).
Seems you forgot to mention D* 3 Spaceway Sats .. the first of which is coming online mid 2004. Combined they have the ability to deliver 1500 HD channels.
To be fair, comparing slots without looking at transponders isn't a full view. D* has three slots on their newest dish providing access to 46 DBS transponders. E*'s Dish500 provides access to 49 transponders, and a SuperDish provides access to an additional 24-32 FSS transponders (500MHz bandwidth). A 61.5 wing dish provides 17 more DBS transponders (including 6 leased from SkyAngel). A 148 wing dish provides 32 more DBS transponders. E*'s 157 is in testing. ALL of that capacity (98 DBS E* plus FSS vs 46 DBS for D*) is online TODAY with no further action by the FCC required. Not all of it is filled.

Perhaps in the future D* will have more capacity. Perhaps E* will too. It remains to be seen IF D*'s plans will work out. There were high hopes for E*'s 105 that have not come to pass. Until the birds are hot and online it is only a forward looking statement, subject to change. :D

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DirecTV or DISH?

Well, let's start by clearing up the point that DISH is MPEG-2 and DVB compliant and DirecTV is NOT. They are MPEG-1.5. They will never be MPEG-2. DISH can update software and add features via a free download (which they have down MANY times over the years on MANY models) where as DirecTV cannot. This is an example of MPEG-2.
Any bugs that DISH has had have been cleared up with software upgrades.
By the way, who has had to change access cards several times? DirecTV!
As far as DVR goes, DISH over 100k of them out there. A lot more experience than DirecTV has.
DISH Networks main focus right now is on HD. Charlie told me himself that he will be the leader. I believe him. He makes changes to accomodate the consumer. Have you ever seen DirecTV act that fast? NOT!
Texas Red
What I tell my customers is to get a brochure from each company and look at the packages offered by them. Circle the channels you want, and go with that choice.
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cinemaandsound said:
Well, let's start by clearing up the point that DISH is MPEG-2 and DVB compliant and DirecTV is NOT. They are MPEG-1.5. They will never be MPEG-2. DISH can update software and add features via a free download (which they have down MANY times over the years on MANY models) where as DirecTV cannot. This is an example of MPEG-2.
Any bugs that DISH has had have been cleared up with software upgrades.
By the way, who has had to change access cards several times? DirecTV!
As far as DVR goes, DISH over 100k of them out there. A lot more experience than DirecTV has.
DISH Networks main focus right now is on HD. Charlie told me himself that he will be the leader. I believe him. He makes changes to accomodate the consumer. Have you ever seen DirecTV act that fast? NOT!
I was a Dish Network fan - I even tried to pay for a 921 at Sears, thank God they wouldn't take my money. If you want an HDTV PVR like I do, Dish is a long way away. It is bad enough that they don't have the features of Tivo but when the 921 more than a year late and still not working it's just too much! The 921 has been in development for what 2+ years? Is this fast? They finally ship a few only to figure out they don't work and that people want to really use the over-the-air tuner but can't. They don't even have an OTA guide - OTA is the source of much more HD content than Dish Network has on satellite. Why? I guess this one just slipped by the genius management of Dish.

Dish has had major problems with just about all of the receivers they have released - they have even bigger problems with their newest ones - 721, 522, 811, 921 all have serious issues. Do you see a trend here? I do...

I don't know if Dish Network is in a merge mood or not but they sure don't seem to care.

If the HD DirecTivo arrives even with bugs before Dish can supply a functional 921 with an OTA guide they may as well just give up on HD now and go back to what they do best - over-compress the hell out of everything and call it "100% digital quality".

Is there anyone at the helm at Dish Network?

By the way - MPEG2 has nothing to do with updating firmware over satellite and Dish has not even come close to "Any bugs that DISH has had have been cleared up with software upgrades." Far from it!
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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Heart of Glass - Blondie
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Harden My HEART-Quarterflash
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My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
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SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

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I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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SkyWatcher57
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?

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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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k4otl
Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.