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By Jay Sherman
Verizon Communications will be required to obtain franchise licenses in the New York municipalities where it plans to offer video service, but does not have obtain those licenses just because it is upgrading its plant to a level where it could offer video, the New York State Public Service Commission ruled Wednesday.

The ruling was in response to a request by Cablevision Systems and more than 100 municipalities in New York that the PSC require Verizon to obtain franchise licenses before it begins construction of a fiber-based network that could handle advanced services such as broadband and video.

Both Verizon and Cablevision used aspects of the ruling to claim victory. Cablevision pointed out that the PSC went on record as saying Verizon will have to obtain franchise licenses in order to offer video, while Verizon highlighted that the Cablevision request was denied.

A central element of the PSC case centered on whether Verizon's replacement of its old copper-wire networks with fiber-optics would require that the company obtain approval from each municipality where the upgrades were being made before construction began.

Verizon argued that the plant upgrades are being made simply to enable the company to offer better voice and broadband services, and that the company never had plans to circumvent the franchise process when it came to offering video services.

"We have always said we will get franchise approval for video," said Verizon spokesman Clifford Lee.

Indeed, Verizon has obtained franchise licenses in six communities throughout the United States so far, though none is in New York.

The issue of franchise fees for the telephone companies' upcoming video offerings has become a hot topic in recent months, with two major phone companies taking a different approach to the issue. While Verizon has indicated it will seek franchise licenses in the communities where it will offer video services, SBC Communications is aggressively fighting any government mandate that it obtain franchise authorizations.

Cable operators have argued that not requiring the phone companies to seek franchises for their upcoming video services puts the phone companies at an unfair advantage to cable companies, which give the communities they service up to 5 percent of their revenues as a fee for doing business in those jurisdictions.

Local communities throughout the United States are becoming more vocal as well, arguing that they will lose out on valuable revenue if the phone companies bypass the franchise route.
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Unavailability in rural areas?

I actually live in what you might call a "rural" area. For years our only high-speed access was via sattelite and then during the past few years by wireless. FIOS came down our street about six months ago. I wasn't pleased about this at first because the contractors (Housley Communication) for the burial cut our phone line twice and the water main twice. BUT, FIOS is the best thing since sliced bread! It hasn't gone down once since our install a few months ago and the speed is fantastic. Also, being such a long way from the nearest telephone demarc station we always had noise on our two telephone lines. Since the FIOS install we have been noise free! I can't wait until we get FIOS TV up and going in our area.
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I work for TWC, ....., Cable builds out the whole area it is allowed to serve, via franchise agreements, with the same services available to EVERYONE, not just where the money is. .

This is bullcrap. TWC has the franchise in my area and they want
$25,000 to extend their service to my home. My 40 neighbors
are in the same exact boat.... Stuck on dialup in upstate New York.
No dsl available neither.

I put up a sign by the road on my property: "Time Warner Sucks".

Stop the lying "Cable builds out whole area" it simply aint true.
I'm stuck on dialup because Time Warner sucks.
You suck like Time Warner.

This site is not letting post a url to my link to where
my story has been posted. PM me and I will provide you link.
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Its funny how cable componies want Verizon to get franchise agreements to offer Video Services but cable companies can offer local phone service without getting the same franchise agreements that Verizon had to get. This goes both ways and to be honest I'm sick of hearing the crap from both sides. I think its best to allow both the cable and telco companies to get into statewide agreements that require them to builtout everywhere in their service area within a certain period of time. The problem is that times have changed and city franchises just aren't need as much anymore like in the past. Now granted the local cities will get part of the overall statewide franchise agreement. Now a company can only pull out of an area if they can prove that there is no chance ever for a profit on their part and I don't see many areas in which that would occur.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.
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Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
Jimbo
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
The weak point would be the connection between the outdoor feed and the indoor feed.
Jimbo
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.
Bruce
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Bruce
Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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