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Last reply Jul 22, 2014 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Lost favorite OTA channel

I have a VIP622 (the original was replaced a few years ago) that has slowly started to lose my favorite OTA PBS station (PBS socal 50) . The signal swings from 38 to 56 and now and won't lock. I know its not the channel because it has the same signal strength as other channels on my 2 TV's ota receivers. The antenna is split to my tv and it has no problems. Most of my ota channels get at least a 98 signal on the VIP622 as I have a good signal to the station towers. I tried deleting all the local channels then re-scanning but the situation has not improved. I could use the Dish supplied PBS channel but then it would eat up one of the tuners. Using the ota receiver gives me another recording at the same time.
Any ideas? I did a reboot and didn't see any change. No other channel is affected.

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dwarren2

Jul 16, 2014

This is a test to see if my location shows up in my signature

Yes it does. So if you want to add your location, make a signature and enter it there.

Hall

Jul 16, 2014

dwarren2 said:
This is a test to see if my location shows up in my signature

Yes it does. So if you want to add your location, make a signature and enter it there.

Wrong thread?

Grandude

Jul 19, 2014

Hall said:
Wrong thread?

Actually no it isn't. The problem is that we were trying to help a member with an OTA problem and without knowing where he was from didn't help. Being able to use the location to look it up on TVFool is one of the tools used to try to solve the problem.
Anyone with an OTA problem should always include his/her location. Also, they probably would be better served by going to the AVS forum for help. The AVS forum deals with OTA problems located by city. LA is active and so is San Francisco.

For really odd problems, the SF forum has some extremely knowledgeable members willling and able to help.
www.avsforum.com

PS. I looked up his location (rough as we only know it is the LA area) and that problem channel show a 0 edge signal. This probably isn't quite accurate without knowing his actual address which probably shouldn't be included here but if looked up by the person with the problem could possibly show a different result.

BTW, I'm leaning toward the possibliilty that he has a multipath problem and a more directional antenna could possibly solve his problem.

I'm not saying i'm stupid, I'm just saying I've got bad luck when it comes to thinking
Reporting from Santa Rosa on the left coast

DishSubLA

Jul 19, 2014

Grandude said:
Actually no it isn't. The problem is that we were trying to help a member with an OTA problem and without knowing where he was from didn't help. Being able to use the location to look it up on TVFool is one of the tools used to try to solve the problem.
Anyone with an OTA problem should always include his/her location. Also, they probably would be better served by going to the AVS forum for help. The AVS forum deals with OTA problems located by city. LA is active and so is San Francisco.

For really odd problems, the SF forum has some extremely knowledgeable members willling and able to help.
www.avsforum.com

PS. I looked up his location (rough as we only know it is the LA area) and that problem channel show a 0 edge signal. This probably isn't quite accurate without knowing his actual address which probably shouldn't be included here but if looked up by the person with the problem could possibly show a different result.

BTW, I'm leaning toward the possibliilty that he has a multipath problem and a more directional antenna could possibly solve his problem.

I'm not saying i'm stupid, I'm just saying I've got bad luck when it comes to thinking
Reporting from Santa Rosa on the left coast

AVS isn't much help, either. Actually the TiVo forum seems to have more knowledgeable and helpful posters regarding OTA. However, THIS forum beats AVS regarding OTA, believe it or not.

However, EXACT location is critical regarding his problem. He is in the San Fernando Valley and there are several locations in "The Valley " that suffer from either partial or complete reception of OTA's while others do not. Zip Code provided does NOT narrow it down far enough because he could live in a part that, to me, would seem NOT to have problems, but in the same zip code there are problems. KOCE's low power/position on Mt. Wilson and poor engineering as for as encoding are the most likely culprits. Multi-path could be a problem, but with KOCE, you don't need mutli-path to have MAJOR problems received that station. I would NOT expect the best nor highest paid nor most competent engineers at KOCE. It is still a teeny weeny station.

Bobby

Jul 20, 2014

He lives in Sherman Oaks, I used to live there. You are correct, he could be in areas that have issues. If he lives north of Ventura Blvd, probably OK, south, lot's of maybe's. But, he had the channel before, this is a newer issue. He gets all the rest of the channels off of Mt. Wilson. Maybe if he could give us nearest cross streets, we might get a better picture...

Grandude

Jul 20, 2014

DishSubLA said:
AVS isn't much help, either. Actually the TiVo forum seems to have more knowledgeable and helpful posters regarding OTA. However, THIS forum beats AVS regarding OTA, believe it or not.

However, EXACT location is critical regarding his problem. He is in the San Fernando Valley and there are several locations in "The Valley " that suffer from either partial or complete reception of OTA's while others do not. Zip Code provided does NOT narrow it down far enough because he could live in a part that, to me, would seem NOT to have problems, but in the same zip code there are problems. KOCE's low power/position on Mt. Wilson and poor engineering as for as encoding are the most likely culprits. Multi-path could be a problem, but with KOCE, you don't need mutli-path to have MAJOR problems received that station. I would NOT expect the best nor highest paid nor most competent engineers at KOCE. It is still a teeny weeny station.

Sorry to hear that AVS LA is useless. The San Francisco thread has numerous very, very knowledgeable members from more than just SF.
Being a teeny weeny station might be a good reason to get a very directional antenna if he doesn't already have one. (IMHO)

dwarren2

Jul 20, 2014

Thanks, just switched and I see the locations, also.

TheKrell

Jul 20, 2014

dwarren2 said:
Thanks, just switched and I see the locations, also.

Dang it! Then there are acres of white space.

dwarren2

Jul 20, 2014

I posted the info as a new thread.

DishSubLA

Jul 22, 2014

Bobby said:
He lives in Sherman Oaks, I used to live there. You are correct, he could be in areas that have issues. If he lives north of Ventura Blvd, probably OK, south, lot's of maybe's. But, he had the channel before, this is a newer issue. He gets all the rest of the channels off of Mt. Wilson. Maybe if he could give us nearest cross streets, we might get a better picture...

It may be "new" to the OP, but not to numerous others. It depends on how long he has been getting KOCE OTA. I have not noticed any MAJOR problems getting KOCE since late last year, over 6 months at least. I had problems just a few days ago, as I posted. This is in the same window as the OP. The problem can come and go within minutes and escape attention. So, it some ways, it never really goes away. Until KOCE is allowed more power, this will be a fact of life with KOCE for SOME people, FOREVER! I still recommend the OP call KOCE and try to speak to someone in Engineering. I've heard they have talked to some people and have been of some help, even if to just confirm the viewer is SOL.

DishSubLA

Jul 22, 2014

Grandude said:
Sorry to hear that AVS LA is useless. The San Francisco thread has numerous very, very knowledgeable members from more than just SF.
Being a teeny weeny station might be a good reason to get a very directional antenna if he doesn't already have one. (IMHO)

I've found the smartest most knowledgeable people regarding RF are at the TiVo Forum and this forum. Maybe because this forum is so focused and RF is a big part of satellite, and with a lot of TiVo folks who also use OTA, they too have RF still a big part of using a TiVo, especially with the new "cord cutters" joining the TiVo forum of late has brought OTA RF much closer to the forefront than before with cable and FiOS still the majority or users and posters. Now, AVS does excel at all sorts of devices NOT cable or sat, and audio/high fidelity in general. Every forum has its own weaknesses and strengths. They is a LOT of great info and knowledgeable people at AVS, but not so much on this topic.

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
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I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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It's a known issue.
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I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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