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Heard during the Dish Networks earnings call
Aug 6 2014, 14:15 ET
Aug 6 2014, 14:15 ET
- Dish Networks (DISH +1.9%) CEO Charlie Ergen concedes during the firm's earnings call that the pay-TV business appears to be in a secular decline.
- Over-the-top offerings at a lower price point could be the future, he notes.
- Ergen is more excited about wireless. He says there's plenty of potential for the company to benefit by partnering with Sprint. A bid for T-Mobile by Dish is described as a "maybe" by the exec.
- Another interesting comment is his contention that a merger of Dish and DirecTV wouldn't makes sense for Dish shareholders due to valuation.
- Earnings call webcast
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I was wondering why they're gonna call the online offerings 'Over-The-Top'?
And I was also wondering how long the big ISP's are gonna let Charlie deliver his programming over their networks with for free. I'm guessing not very long.
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As far as letting ANYONE stream for free, there is more to this than the ISP, who could wake the sleeping giant name Congress if they really try to start charging for access, and COMCAST may have to agree to never do this if they want to merge with TWC, right now such talk is focused exclusively on Netflix because of the incredible traffic they have. No one else even comes close and have nor worries just yet. There is more involved than just the ISP, the backbone providers may want to charge, NOT necessarily the ISP's. Then there is the argument that since it is Netflix creating all this traffic and its increased cost or problems for the system, some say it should be Netflix to pay for improvements, but they that does bring up the notion of destroying "Net Neutrality."
It depends upon who is going to pay to accommodate all this new traffic, even if the only point of congestion is the edge routers, which seem to be an ISP cost, but could end up being a backbone provider cost if it comes to that.
We will see increased internet access rates either way, unfortunately, because they always pass the cost to the consumer, although edge routers and connecting them are chump change to all the companies involved. And yes, it will take a few years, but we will see OTT services having to greatly raise their rates to pay for the content. Netflix has already lost Viacom content, especially upsetting to parents and their kids, while trying to replace it with lame kids stuff.
"Over The Top" or "OTT" is an industry term referring to content services such as Netflix or just about any of the "channels" on a Roku such as CNET, TwitTV, and all of them often acceable via the internet using a connected device like a Roku, WD Live, PS3 or PS4, or a Smart TV, etc. beyond the traditional MVPD (Multi-channel Video Program Distributor, which includes all cable and DBS sat services, while MSO refers to cable companies only) model. Lots more acronyms out there. Those are just a few.I was wondering why they're gonna call the online offerings 'Over-The-Top'?
And I was also wondering how long the big ISP's are gonna let Charlie deliver his programming over their networks with for free. I'm guessing not very long.
As far as letting ANYONE stream for free, there is more to this than the ISP, who could wake the sleeping giant name Congress if they really try to start charging for access, and COMCAST may have to agree to never do this if they want to merge with TWC, right now such talk is focused exclusively on Netflix because of the incredible traffic they have. No one else even comes close and have nor worries just yet. There is more involved than just the ISP, the backbone providers may want to charge, NOT necessarily the ISP's. Then there is the argument that since it is Netflix creating all this traffic and its increased cost or problems for the system, some say it should be Netflix to pay for improvements, but they that does bring up the notion of destroying "Net Neutrality."
It depends upon who is going to pay to accommodate all this new traffic, even if the only point of congestion is the edge routers, which seem to be an ISP cost, but could end up being a backbone provider cost if it comes to that.
We will see increased internet access rates either way, unfortunately, because they always pass the cost to the consumer, although edge routers and connecting them are chump change to all the companies involved. And yes, it will take a few years, but we will see OTT services having to greatly raise their rates to pay for the content. Netflix has already lost Viacom content, especially upsetting to parents and their kids, while trying to replace it with lame kids stuff.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?
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Starting a thread klang !
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...
