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Dee_Ann
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Well after spending quite a few years in one spot it turns out that I'll be moving.

And of course I will be moving my dishes with me.
The new place is a much, much bigger, much much nicer house and neighborhood. But the yard is a LOT smaller than this one.
My backyard here is like 6,300+ square feet. Pretty darn big. The new yard is just barely over 2,000 square feet. Not much room for three large, rowdy dogs. :oldno

I really don't want to put the dishes in the backyard because it's so small. Not to mention I'm going to have a lot of gardening going on which will make the yard smaller still.

This means I need to put the dishes on the side of the house. I have an area of 30 feet by 14 feet to work with. It will be fenced in with a 6' privacy fence so things will get a bit tight in there with the 10 foot dish.
There is a house next door but it's far enough away that the dishes will be able to see over it's roof across the entire arc.

One of the problems I am facing is that the house/yard is at a weird angle to north/south.

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Here, at my current house, my yard is in almost perfect alignment with north/south so my dishes face straight back.

But because of the alignment at the new place I can't place the dishes flat against the side of the house, they have to be out away from the house to clear the wall. I also have two air conditioners and some shrubbery there. I can't move the air conditioners and I don't want to cut the shrubbery down, at most I will have to keep it pruned back because it can get really tall.

I'm putting the 10' BUD, the 6' KU (convert to mini-BUD), two 1m KU USALS dishes, and the three Dishnet dishes. Pretty much all the same dishes I have here now. But being that it's in a very confined 14x30 area within a 6' fence and with obstacles within, I have to be very fastidious in my planning it out.

I have to have them come locate underground pipes, wires, etc and mark them. Then I have to buy all new poles and weld anti-rotate rods to them, pay someone to dig large, deep holes then set the poles in place and fill them with cement. After all the trouble I've had with them here I've learned that this time they'll be a lot deeper, bigger around and filled with a lot more cement. I can't make mistakes at all. I can't do it haphazard like it is now. If I mess up and have a pole put in then find out after that I put it where it can't swing around without hitting something, I'm really messed up.

Line of sight is not an issue in that there are no trees or obstacles to be concerned with except making sure that the dishes don't get in the way of each other. I'm thinking the big dishes go to the back, the smaller ones to the front.

I can't take the dishes there to "try them out for fit" in advance, I have to do this strictly by math I guess. And math, is not my friend. I've got to have all the poles set permanently in place then move the dishes after the fact, and hope that I didn't totally foul it up.

Are there any tips I should know about that would take the guess work out of this? I would like this to be a scientific, precision operation with no mistakes because I only get one chance to get it right and it has to be right the first time. Sc*** ups not allowed..

Thanks.. :)
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Dee_Ann
I'm taking my FTA stuff down and relocating it into storage at the new house. There's no reason for me to be in any hurry to put it back up.
All I'm going to worry about is getting my three dishes up for my subscription Dish stuff and a tower for my OTA.
FTA has dropped to the absolute bottom of my priority list. Putting up my sub stuff will be a cake walk, I don't need to pay someone to do that, I can do it alone in one day.
I'll plant the poles sometime in the next 2-3 weeks so they are ready for the big move, I'm running an RG-11 wire ahead of time so it can all be switched over in just a few hours.

After that I'm going to focus on my OTA tower so I can get Houston.

Maybe at some point in the winter I'll reconsider putting the FTA dishes up. I see no real reason to worry or hurry anymore.
There's one small motorized .9m KU dish up there now which I can use to get PBS (which I can also get on my Roku) and about 3 channels on 97w.
Nothing else really matters to me. Losing Weigel stuff is pretty close to being the nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.

I get AT250 on Dish which 98% of it is garbage now. White trash TV is what it has degenerated to. Big foot, red necks, ghosts, fat kids, hippies in the woods and the never ending trainload of competition shows.
The only reason I keep the AT250 package is that I can't do À la carte. The spread the channels that occasionally have content that requires brain cells to watch over the entire spread of tiers. It's a scam that makes me have to subsidize the other 98% crapola white trash channels/shows.

On my Roku I have about 150 assorted channels, Netflix, Hulu Plus and Amazon Prime. PBS is there as well and the shows usually sit there all month so you can watch them at your convenience.

The Amiko A3, obviously the Weigel recording problem is no longer of any concern. It has a lot of streaming video options baked in that the Roku does not.
Plus on the A3 I can watch Doctor Who several hours early, without commercials, watermarks and idiots dancing around the lower third of the screen waving and setting fire to things to alert me to a new show 3 months from now.

Most of the shows on MeTV, I have complete copies of the entire series. I just need to run them through one of my Macs and edit out the commercials and convert them to MKV.

I'm really upset that I just spent a LOT of money in the past few months and even more so over the course of the past 5 years on this hobby and now it's dying and going away.
The stuff that I care about. Yes, there's a ton of stuff up there for people that like foreign stuff or religious stuff or sports stuff. But none of those things interest me in the least and that leaves almost nothing up there for me now.
I don't foresee new things appearing on FTA, not with the rush to push everything through the internet now. I see more stuff being scrambled and more stuff switching to IP streams which will cut us 100% out of the loop just as effectively as a scrambled satellite does.

When you're watching TV over antenna or satellites, they have no way of knowing what you're watching. When you watch it via IP streaming they can spy on you like never before and profit from that incursion into your life.
Such as the Roku. Read their privacy policy. They are just as evil as any other parasite corporation. They all are profiteering, evil scum. I fight back against them in my own way. I will not be the product.

So yeah, this is pretty much the end of FTA for me. There's not much left and what little is left, it's just a matter of time before it all goes away.
Over the winter if I get bored I may put a dish or two up but I have absolutely no plan to be in any hurry, if at all.
After MeTV and the others go black I probably won't be around much anymore. I suppose I need to find a forum about OTA television so I can get some brainy help on building a wicked mega antenna for pulling in Houston, Houston is my best bet as there is a LOT of stuff on the air there. Of course that may take a huge hit when they auction off the 600mhz range this coming summer.
"Free" is bad. Free is un-American and anti-capitalism. Free must die so that profit may thrive.

I wish I could move to England. I would gladly pay the TV license fee to have what they have over there. The BBC is what PBS should be.


Adieu....
DRCars
I suppose I need to find a forum about OTA television
Good one right here at SG:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/forums/digital-over-the-air-television-talk-by-rabbitears.46/
DRCars
Stargazer
You could always put up a few FTA dishes that would receive some of the main channels that you have and slowly work your way back to having all the dishes back up again if you think it is worthwhile.

Have you tried putting more than one lnb on a dish?
Conky
Sell the house.
Sell the car.
Sell the kids.
Sell the BUD
Find someone else. Forget it. I'm never coming back. Forget it.
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eurosport
Sell the house.
Sell the car.
Sell the kids.
Sell the BUD
Find someone else. Forget it. I'm never coming back. Forget it.
Again! ;)

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primestar31
Come on guys, not cool. Mocking people is a teenager thing and not something adults should be involved in. That certainly won't get her to come back.

People are all different, and handle things their own way, let's stay positive, because if she stays away for good this time, IMO, it'll be a net loss for the FTA community. She's one of the BEST documenters we have, and I don't want her ability in that to be lost forever.
T
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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navychop
Will do!
cpdretired
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1
wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.