When I used the latest update, my receiver shut down and restarted, and wouldn't act right. When I used the 2010 version, it is acting better, but haven't done anything else with it. I have been getting the AMIKO MiniHD SE going lately. But I would like to load the TP List on the Viewsat, but it won't get any S2 stuff. But the sat list is a .sat file, and the list is a .csv. I think I was able to view it with ALI Editor, but it will only save as a .csv. I would like to download the list instead of manually editing all of them. Espially all the TP's. Maybe I'm just being stupid, but I've got a few loaders, and editors, but no way to convert or print the Data from the ALI Editor. Hmmm? Let me know what ya think. Thanks man. Later. BTW, Got the system up and running, but stumbling a bit with transponders #'s and how to properly save them in Diseqc mode. Whoever wrote the book needs a little better grip the English language, but I hear ya, "You'll have that with foreign products." But they don't explain things very well, and vague. You must be expected to have a real grasp on this technology, or you'll flounder. My wife said that it would have been in a garage sale already if it would have been up to her. Lol. I thinks it's a blast, but the little idio-syncrities are challenging, and sometimes frustrating, but it's the way it is. It's just a rudimentary CNC program essentially. I hope I have a grasp on all this, but does every satellite basically hav all the same stuff, except for some channel differences, or am I doing something wrong. My wife and I noticed that there isn't that much of an array of choices. A lot of the same channels on different sats? I know some have different stuff, but mostly repeats. Check me if I'm wrong. I hope I am... Anyway, I'll catch ya... Thanks! Tom