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Can SiriusXM Survive Without Howard Stern?
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By Felix Gillette 2 hours ago
One day last summer, Howard Stern ripped into his bosses at SiriusXM on his morning radio show. He accused them of gamesmanship, of treating him like a common employee, of disrespecting his talent. "Whenever you f--- with me, I will f--- with you worse," he said. "I always win."

Explaining why he was so livid, Stern told his listeners that his bosses had recently asked him if he'd like to move the start of his show an hour later, to 7 a.m. That way everybody would get an extra hour of sleep. It seemed like a generous offer; Stern thought it over and accepted. It was then, he said, that management balked, insisting he'd misunderstood. He could start his show at 7 a.m., they informed him, if and when he renewed his contract with Sirius XM Holdings, which is set to expire in December 2015. Stern said he was enraged by what he felt was a strategic bait-and-switch. (A spokesperson for SiriusXM declined to comment.) For the next several minutes, he vented. "It's not even clear to me who works for who," Stern said. "I'm pretty sure if I left, it would be very bad for the company."

Stern is 61 years old. For 40 years he's been rising before dawn to entertain and titillate drive-time commuters with a kaleidoscopic, screwball performance that's teeming with anxiety, misfits, satire, celebrities, profanity, pranks, and porn stars. He's the top rainmaker in American radio, capable of generating hundreds of millions of dollars a year in revenue for whomever employs him and his entourage of baroque sideshow performers known as the Wack Pack. Since 2005, Stern's show has appeared on SiriusXM, the nation's sole satellite radio service, which charges subscribers for access to some 175 channels of curated music, live sports, and talk shows. (The price typically ranges from $9.99 to $18.99 a month.) He anchors four hours of morning radio three days a week. Repeats of his shows and highlights from his extensive archives air constantly on two dedicated Howard Stern channels.

Over the past decade, Stern and SiriusXM have thrived together. In 2004, when Stern announced he was moving his hit show from broadcast radio, where it was syndicated on 46 major markets around the country and attracted an estimated 20 million listeners, to satellite radio, where the majority of Americans wouldn't hear it, lots of people thought he was crazy. It was unclear whether significant numbers of people would pay for satellite radio when they could listen to AM/FM for free.

But with Stern on board, Sirius's fortunes took off, its subscriber base swelling with acolytes incanting "Baba-Booey!" and "Hey now!" Sirius quickly caught up with, passed, then acquired its rival, XM Satellite Radio. After surviving a rocky patch during the recession, SiriusXM has emerged in recent years as a growing, profitable business. It has 27.3 million paying subscribers. Last year the company had earnings of $1.4 billion before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization on $4.2 billion of revenue. On paper, the marriage between Stern and SiriusXM has never been better. Yet its future remains in limbo. Stern, who declined to be interviewed for this article, hasn't said if he intends to extend his contract.

"The Howard Stern Show is still the single most important piece of content that SiriusXM has—and the most expensive," says Barton Crockett, an analyst with FBR Capital Markets. He estimates that Stern's contract costs his employer about $80 million a year. "I think he's worth every penny. It would be great for them if they can keep Howard Stern."

In the past, Stern has always let his contract decisions go down to the wire. He has nine months to entertain offers and let the drama play out on his show. "Never think of me as a disc jockey," he said on-air last July. "Because the one thing that matters to me more than anything after all these years in radio is that you treat me with respect. I'm sick and tired of how management speaks to talent. Talent is what drives this world. There is no Sirius without talent. Doesn't matter how many satellites you f---ing stick in the air."


Stern's looming free agency comes at a time of upheaval in the radio business. A crowd of Internet radio and streaming music companies, such as Spotify and Pandora Media, are competing with Apple and Google to further disrupt the marketplace. The coming battle for Americans' ears, whether in the car or on a computer or smartphone, promises to be fierce. In this unsettled territory, an exclusive deal with Stern could be a fearsome weapon. In theory, he could do for somebody in Internet radio what he did for Sirius in satellite radio.

"Talent is what drives this world. There is no Sirius without talent. Doesn't matter how many satellites you f---ing stick in the air"

SiriusXM enjoys a unique advantage in the American automobile. Satellite radio is the only premium audio service widely integrated into cars. As their software systems become increasingly Internet-connected via internal modems, dashboard systems are expected to become more like mobile devices. Once that happens, the same crush of companies currently fighting it out on consumers' computers and smartphones will likely extend the battle lines into the car.

Already, Silicon Valley is eyeing the dashboard lustily. In March 2014, Apple announced a product called CarPlay that allows drivers to project their iPhone menus onto the dashboard screens of certain vehicles, such as the 2015 Hyundai Sonata. In June, Google countered with a similar product called Android Auto. Later this year, Google will roll out a premium subscription audio service called YouTube Music Key.

On message boards, Stern's fans are tossing out ideas. He should move to the Internet. Or sign with Apple. Or start a podcast. The breakout popularity of Serial, a 12-episode podcast from the makers of This American Life, inspired more than one trend spotter to declare 2015 "the year of the podcast." In February a caller asked Stern what he thought of the medium. "It's stupid. It's a waste of time," he said. "If you want to be in radio, forget a podcast. Podcasts are for losers."

Historically, being Stern's boss during a time of friction has been an ulcer-inducing affair. Managers who alienate him find themselves cast as buffoons in his skits. Battling with his bosses at WNBC in the 1980s, Stern nicknamed one of his program directors Pig Vomit. Another time, he got his hands on a sloppily composed memo written by a general manager and invited an elementary school teacher on the air to grade it. She gave it a D.

Jim Meyer, chief executive officer of SiriusXM, seems determined not to give Stern fodder for on-air umbrage. A native of Indiana, Meyer, 60, speaks with a slight Midwestern accent and favors metaphors involving the Indianapolis Colts. On a Thursday morning in mid-February, sitting in a conference room at SiriusXM headquarters in Manhattan, Meyer says he "loves" Stern, is a "huge Howard fan," thinks "his interviews are the best," and the "show has never been better." If he had his druthers, he says, he wouldn't wait until December. He'd renew Stern's deal right now—that is, if they could agree on the right price. "I want Howard Stern for as long as Howard Stern wants to work," Meyer says while a public-relations person records the interview. "I'm only willing to pay so much. I know what that number is. But even if I was in an al-Qaeda death camp, no one is going to know what that number is but me."

After spending much of his career working as an executive at consumer electronics companies, including Thomson, Meyer joined Sirius in 2004 as president of sales and operations. A few years later, as the economy descended into recession and sales of new cars equipped with satellite radio slowed, John Malone's Liberty Media helped the faltering SiriusXM stave off bankruptcy with a $530 million loan, becoming its largest shareholder. In 2012 then-CEO Mel Karmazin, a brash New Yorker with a decades-long and, for the most part, warm relationship with Stern, announced he was resigning amid clashes with Liberty. After an interim trial period, Meyer took over in 2013 as CEO.

He's been working to make SiriusXM a place where Stern feels appreciated. In January, six months after his diatribe against his bosses, Stern got his wish: The show now starts at 7 a.m. In 2014, SiriusXM threw Stern a legacy-burnishing 60th birthday party at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan, which featured a conga line of top comedians and musicians paying homage to him. "If you listen to his show, he always talks about how happy he is," Meyer says. But "just like your 12-year-old, he's always happy until something else comes along."

In 2010, the last time Stern's contract was up for renewal, a SiriusXM executive suggested at a media conference that Stern might have to take a pay cut. At the time the company was shelling out a reported $100 million a year for his show. Stern proceeded to reveal the executive's salary on-air and demanded to know when he was taking a pay cut. At the end of 2010, Stern signed a five-year extension with SiriusXM. The following year he filed a civil lawsuit against it, alleging that the company he had "put on the map" had failed to pay him stock awards tied to hitting subscriber targets. Lawyers for SiriusXM denied the claims, and the suit was eventually dismissed.

Meyer is betting that Stern's love of radio will outweigh his impulse to clash with the company. "What I'm hoping is that's a hard drug to give up," says Meyer. "I'm hoping for the roar of the crowd. Why is Peyton Manning maybe going to play another year? It's not the money."

Whatever happens, Meyer says SiriusXM will be fine. "Could we survive if Howard left? Sure," he says. "I just don't want it." That may sound like a negotiating tactic, but the company has spent the past decade building its business beyond one personality. "We have a very scalable business model that works," Meyer says. "In fairness, we lost $9 billion getting here. But this hasn't been an easy road. That's why when I hear everybody else is going to be in our business—well, come on!"

"Please don't print that Howard Stern is only one piece of content. He'll call me the next day"

When Sirius launched its first nationwide service in 2002, subscribers had to purchase receivers at stores such as Circuit City and Best Buy and then get the equipment installed in their cars. Over the past decade, however, the company has worked closely with U.S., European, and Asian automakers to integrate SiriusXM technology into vehicles. These days, Meyer says, of the roughly 230 million cars on the American road, 70 million are satellite-radio-enabled. And of the roughly 16 million new cars rolled out in the U.S. this year, 71 percent have satellite radio built into the dashboard. That could be close to 100 percent, Meyer says, but the company chooses not to go after most low-end vehicles, the buyers of which are unlikely to pay for radio. "By and large, our customers tend to be a little older and a little more affluent," says Meyer. "They look like people who buy new cars, who on average are 46 years old and make $100,000 a year."

SiriusXM has proven that people will pay for radio if you offer them something easy to use and more enticing than what's available free, Meyer says. What most satellite radio customers pay for, he says, is the variety. "It's not one piece of content," he says. "And please don't print that Howard Stern is only one piece of content. He'll call me the next day."

SiriusXM is constantly making additions to its programming bundle of curated music channels, talk radio shows, and live sports, which has meant making deals with the NFL, the NBA, MLB, NHL, and Nascar. Recently, it added shows from Ellen DeGeneres, Jenny McCarthy, and Hoda Kotb designed to woo female car buyers. In 2013, in a bid to attract more Hispanic subscribers, it launched a channel anchored by Eddie "Piolín" Sotelo, one of the top Spanish-language radio personalities in the U.S. Less than a year later, SiriusXM dropped the channel. "Approximately nobody would pay for him," Meyer says. "That's the cool thing about Howard. People are willing to pay." The company isn't giving up on the demographic. It will soon introduce a channel curated by Pitbull, the bilingual pop star to whom big U.S. brands frequently turn when trying to reach Latino customers.

Meyer says that over the years, SiriusXM has grown adept at converting new-car owners into paying subscribers using free trial subscriptions. The company is working to get better at targeting purchasers of used vehicles, which are now more likely to have satellite radio capabilities baked in.

Internet companies have been trying to colonize the car for years. Meyer recalls a colleague coming into his office in 2004 in a panic because he'd just seen a plan from BMW to add a jack allowing a driver to plug an iPod directly into a car's stereo system and operate it from the steering wheel. "Every automaker said, 'We gotta do this!' So today there's not a car made that doesn't have that jack," Meyer says. "I'd argue that we haven't come a hell of a lot farther since then. Yeah, there's no wire anymore. Yeah, that device is a gazillion times more powerful than the iPod was. But you're still trying to accomplish the same thing. Hasn't had any impact on our business."

Meyer says that though someday all cars will be fully Internet-connected, the change will take place glacially. That's in part because car manufacturers tend to err on the side of caution when rolling out technology—if something goes awry, customers' lives are at stake—and, because people hold on to cars for much longer than, say, smartphones. As a result, new features typically take several years to become commonplace. "So when people say, 'Oh, I'm going to put my technology in the car'—good luck," Meyer says. "We've spent billions of dollars and lots of time to do this. This is not going to change in three years."

Meyer says he's positioning the company for that future, when all cars are Internet-enabled. In 2013, SiriusXM paid $530 million to automotive services company Agero for its connected-vehicle division, which makes software embedded in cars to provide constantly updated roadside assistance or stolen-vehicle tracking, for example. "Being on the inside, it protects our position in the vehicle," Meyer says.


Neither Stern nor Meyer knows exactly how much of a hit SiriusXM would take if Stern left. Satellite radio is a one-way signal, making its audiences more difficult to measure than, say, Internet radio. There's no Nielsen for SiriusXM. Meyer says subscribers who originally signed up just to hear Stern now, after nine years, listen to other things, too. "So if Howard goes, will all of them go?" Meyer asks. "I don't know."

In January 2014, Macquarie surveyed 800 SiriusXM subscribers and found that while SiriusXM is available on the go for premium subscribers via Web and mobile apps, 84 percent of listening takes place in cars. Of the respondents, 12 percent said they listen to Stern—the equivalent of about 3.2 million listeners. Five percent said they'd consider leaving SiriusXM if Stern departed. A rough estimate suggests it could cost the company about $240 million in lost revenue annually if he left. For a company that generated $4.2 billion in revenue last year, that would be a substantial blow—but hardly crippling.

Stern and SiriusXM might both be better off sticking together, analysts say. Amy Yong, who follows the company for Macquarie, says there's speculation that Stern could launch his own direct-to-consumer product. But she's skeptical. "There's more than just the dollar amount that goes into these decisions," she says. "SiriusXM makes it very nice for him to work. Why disturb that?"

FBR Capital Markets analyst Crockett says SiriusXM is "highly likely" to keep Stern. He points out that Stern's alternatives come with short steps backward in compensation, reach, or prestige. If Stern returned to terrestrial radio, he'd find himself wrestling with government regulators. If he launched a direct-to-consumer product, he'd have to spend significant time and money building the infrastructure. And if he went to Google or Apple, his show would be less accessible for U.S. drivers. By 2017, according to estimates from IHS Automotive, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto will be available in only 3 million vehicles in the U.S. and Canada. By then, SiriusXM estimates that more than 100 million American cars will be satellite-radio-enabled.

In theory, Stern could decamp for a premium TV network like HBO or a subscription streaming service such as Netflix. But so far, SiriusXM has been willing to accommodate Stern's extracurricular TV activities, such as his gig as a judge on NBC's America's Got Talent. Maybe the company would indulge additional ventures on the Internet. In February, the New York Times reported that Lloyd Braun, a Los Angeles-based media executive who was once Stern's lawyer, had signed him as a client for Whalerock Industries, Braun's new company, which will create "media hubs" for celebrities. According to the Times, the service will augment existing deals such as Stern's with SiriusXM rather than replace them. Braun declined to comment.

Crockett doubts music-oriented services such as Spotify or Pandora would have enough money to poach Stern even if they wanted to. "I don't know that anyone else can give him as good a combination of lifestyle and money as he can get at SiriusXM," Crockett says. "If you go to one of these emerging things, it's not going to be at the same level. SiriusXM has finally become a big platform."

Bob Lefsetz, a music industry analyst, says Stern, having spent a decade building SiriusXM into a major audio platform, is reaping the benefits. These days, he's getting A-list celebrity guests—Larry David, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bradley Cooper—who would have been unthinkable not long ago, when sex workers, weirdos, and marginal celebrities typically jockeyed for attention. The Hollywood publicists and studio execs who used to snub Stern's show are scrambling to get their clients a piece of his coveted airtime. "Howard now has the cultural impact and level of acceptance that he's always desired and had never reached previously," Lefsetz says.

In January, when a caller asked about his plans, Stern called Meyer, the CEO, a "very sweet man" and praised SiriusXM's strategy. "It's a great place to be," Stern said. "If I'm going to do some more radio, he's the first guy I'd talk to." He then revealed somewhat cryptically that he'd recently gotten an intriguing job offer. To do what and for whom, he didn't say. The problem, he lamented, is that there are only so many hours in the day. Maybe he'll just retire. "It would be kind of interesting, not to do anything," Stern said. "I think I'd really be good at that."

If he walks away at the end of 2015, Stern will be in good company. In May, David Letterman will host his final Late Show on CBS. And at some unspecified date later this year, Jon Stewart will anchor his final night of The Daily Show on Comedy Central. "I always think, 'Wow, I need the radio, and I need to have an audience,'?" Stern told his listeners. "Maybe I don't." http://finance.yahoo.com/news/siriusxm-survive-without-howard-stern-120010119.html
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Stern is the epitome of media hype.

Reality? He has one act. "I cannot believe somebody said **** on the radio!!!!" Once you accept that, yes, somebody said **** on the radio, or, mature past the mental age of 12 and quit finding it funny that somebody did, he is finished.

Reality? When this joker was "king of all media", he had a mediocre rated show in a FEW BIG CITIES. He parlayed stunt disputes with the FCC into an obscure TV show and a mediocre movie (now nearly 20 years old and available in K-Mart's bargain tub for $1).

Reality? Parlayed all that into millions from SXM. Now, AGAIN, trying to hit us up because he brings all these dozens of subscribers to SXM.

SXM can finds another no talent to make fart noises. SXM's market is truckers and salesmen.
Scott Greczkowski
Sam judging by reading your post you havent listened to Stern in awile if at all

there is no better interviewer in the business than Howard Stern.

My wife had the same opinion of him as you do, then one day I had him on and he was interviewing someone she turned the radio up and said great interview. Now if I have him in the car and she comes in she likes listening.
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Sam judging by reading your post you havent listened to Stern in awile if at all

there is no better interviewer in the business than Howard Stern.

My wife had the same opinion of him as you do, then one day I had him on and he was interviewing someone she turned the radio up and said great interview. Now if I have him in the car and she comes in she likes listening.

I'm someone who isn't a fan of him. I will say that when I am flipping through the channels and see that he is interviewing someone I like I will stop and listen for a while.

The problem is that they are usually doing some moronic bit instead of an interview when I flip his channel on. I find the rest of his show and all the dumb characters to be so un-funny and juvenile that I don't want to sit through them in the hopes that an interview is coming up. This means that more often than not I just completely ignore channel 100 and 101.
w6pea
Stern is the epitome of media hype.

Reality? He has one act. "I cannot believe somebody said **** on the radio!!!!" Once you accept that, yes, somebody said **** on the radio, or, mature past the mental age of 12 and quit finding it funny that somebody did, he is finished.

Reality? When this joker was "king of all media", he had a mediocre rated show in a FEW BIG CITIES. He parlayed stunt disputes with the FCC into an obscure TV show and a mediocre movie (now nearly 20 years old and available in K-Mart's bargain tub for $1).

Reality? Parlayed all that into millions from SXM. Now, AGAIN, trying to hit us up because he brings all these dozens of subscribers to SXM.

SXM can finds another no talent to make fart noises. SXM's market is truckers and salesmen.

Sam judging by reading your post you havent listened to Stern in awile if at all

there is no better interviewer in the business than Howard Stern.

My wife had the same opinion of him as you do, then one day I had him on and he was interviewing someone she turned the radio up and said great interview. Now if I have him in the car and she comes in she likes listening.

I'm someone who isn't a fan of him. I will say that when I am flipping through the channels and see that he is interviewing someone I like I will stop and listen for a while.

The problem is that they are usually doing some moronic bit instead of an interview when I flip his channel on. I find the rest of his show and all the dumb characters to be so un-funny and juvenile that I don't want to sit through them in the hopes that an interview is coming up. This means that more often than not I just completely ignore channel 100 and 101.

I have to say I agree with most of what all of you folks are saying. But when he is on the air his show they are acting like 10 or 12 year old kids. and the show is like "School yard politics" as "SWMbO" calls it.
I just don't think they need the majority of the conversations have a 75% to 98% level of Vulgar Language (He's no Marine Corps Drill Instructor)
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The Fat Man
Sam judging by reading your post you havent listened to Stern in awile if at all

there is no better interviewer in the business than Howard Stern.

My wife had the same opinion of him as you do, then one day I had him on and he was interviewing someone she turned the radio up and said great interview. Now if I have him in the car and she comes in she likes listening.

I'm going to sound as if I'm against your position, but my point will come around to support it. Reverend Bob Levy had his falling out with Howard, and has since switched alliance to Opie and Anthony (now Opie and Jim). In an interview with...I wish I remember who...Levy stated that one thing he likes better about Opie's show, compared to Howard, is the interviews on Opie are more of a conversation. Howard has a script of topics that are decided upon in a pre-interview.

A friend of mine told me about Howard's recent interview of Conan O'Brien. I listened to it on YouTube. Despite, the differences in practice, that interview was well polished. I wouldn't say that it was the best ever, but it did keep my interested. His procedure for interviewing works and does garner positive results.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
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Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
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Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.


I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
A dandilion by any other name.
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