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DISH Unveils Hopper 3 with Enhanced 4K Experience; Most Simultaneous Recording, Processing Power of Any DVR; Announces HopperGO for Offline Viewing of Recorded Content

· 4K: Content partnerships for on demand viewing of 4K titles
· Channel Conflict Eliminated: 16 tuners for improved DVR functionality across the whole home
· Sports Bar Mode: Play four simultaneous, live HD channels on one 4K screen at home
· YouTube: Integration of YouTube coming to Hopper 3
· HopperGO: First personal mobile video drive for viewing of DVR-recorded content on the move
· Netflix: Incorporated into Hopper universal search results

LAS VEGAS, Jan. 5, 2016 – DISH Network L.L.C. today unveiled Hopper 3 and HopperGO, each packed with industry firsts designed to change the way consumers find, record, stream, watch and transport content. The next generation of the company's whole-home DVR, Hopper 3, features 16 tuners, 4K content options including the proprietary "Sports Bar Mode," and integration of Netflix into its universal search results. The pocket-sized HopperGO wireless flash drive stores up to 100 hours of recorded content for offline viewing on smartphones and tablets.

"Today we are giving consumers even more choice and control over their viewing experience by introducing the most advanced DVR in the world, while also redefining the mobile viewing experience," said Vivek Khemka, DISH Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer. "Hopper 3 is more than just a DVR; it's an entertainment hub that supports and centralizes the various content types popular today, like streaming apps and Ultra HD, while engineered to adapt with the trends on the horizon, like linear 4K."

Industry-leading 16 tuners create conflict-free TV experience

Hopper 3 contains 16 tuners, more than any other DVR in the world. The expansion makes it easy for viewers to watch shows in multiple rooms, view live programs remotely via DISH Anywhere and set multiple recordings, all at the same time and without the need to manage conflicts or cancel timers.

"Consumers may not spend a lot of time thinking about how many tuners they have, but they do care about being able to watch and record all the shows they want to see when they want to see them," said Khemka. "Having 16 tuners enables us to give our customers a conflict-free viewing experience while also supporting advanced features like our new 4K Sports Bar Mode."

Sports Bar Mode, content partnerships maximize 4K experience

DISH is the first pay-TV provider to offer the 4K Sports Bar Mode, a multi-channel view that divides the screen into quadrants, each with the ability to display a different program in 1080. The feature works by decoding any four different HD feeds and displaying them simultaneously.


To enrich customers' 4K experience even further, DISH is announcing agreements with Sony Pictures, The Orchard and Mance Media to deliver movies and other 4K content directly to the Hopper 3 and 4K Joey. At launch, customers with these boxes will be able to rent on demand popular Sony titles such as "The Amazing Spiderman," "American Hustle"and"Smurfs 2"in 4K.

"The affordability of 4K TVs has increased dramatically, and consumers are hungry for content and features that really showcase the picture and put the technology to work," said Khemka. "With Sports Bar Mode, we wanted to replicate the fan experience of enjoying several games simultaneously for the home, and combining this feature with our new content offerings gives viewers a rich 4K viewing experience unavailable elsewhere."

Netflix now integrated into Hopper search

After becoming the first major U.S. pay-TV provider to integrate Netflix into a set-top box, DISH is taking the experience a step further by integrating Netflix into universal search results. With this new functionality, customers who search for a TV series will see a list that incorporates episodes from Netflix, DVR recordings, on demand options and future airings, depending on availability of each. Netflix 4K content will also be available for viewing on the Hopper 3 and 4K Joey, broadening the selection of Ultra HD content available to customers.

"The integration of Netflix titles into our search results is one more way we are making the Hopper a true entertainment hub, enabling viewers to easily find the programming they want to watch without having to run multiple searches across platforms," said Khemka.

Netflix inclusion in universal search will be available on both Hopper 2 and Hopper 3.

YouTube integration brings popular videos to the TV screen

In the coming months, DISH will launch YouTube on Hopper 3, bringing viral videos and content from a new generation of entertainment stars to the TV screen via a set-top box. YouTube joins several Hopper apps and features that together bring a range of entertainment options to customers, including Netflix, Pandora, Vevo, The Weather Channel and Hopper Arcade.

"Our strategy with Hopper apps is tied to the variety of sources that consumers access for entertainment and information today, making the Hopper a one-stop source for popular content," said Khemka. "The addition of YouTube fits perfectly with this strategy, bringing the videos dominating the Internet today to customers' living rooms, all without the need to switch inputs or devices."

Enhanced processing, storage and connectivity to power the whole home experience

Adding to the conflict-free viewing experience is Hopper 3's ability to support up to six Joeys simultaneously, powering a total of seven TVs at one time. The DVR is compatible with the standard Joey, Wireless Joey and the soon to be released 4K Joey. DISH is delivering enhanced connectivity options to drive the whole-home experience, including MoCA 2.0 and Gigabit Ethernet.

Hopper 3 is powered by the fastest set-top box processor available, the Broadcom 7445, a quad-core Arm processor, giving the new DVR seven times the speed of Hopper 2. It contains 2 TB of internal storage, enough to save up to 500 hours of HD content, more than any other pay-TV provider. Hopper 3 is the first DVR to use USB 3.0 connectivity for external storage expansion, which allows for transfer speeds ten times faster than USB 2.0. It features a sleek, modern UI/UX and is navigated using the Hopper Voice Remote. Hopper 3 will be available in early 2016.

HopperGO personal mobile video drive stores 100 hours of recorded content

A pioneer in delivering true "TV anywhere," DISH has offered features like Hopper Transfers that give customers the ability to transfer recorded content to mobile devices for nearly a decade. Today the brand is announcing an even more revolutionary way to transfer, store and watch recorded content on the move, HopperGO. With HopperGO, every member of the family can take a favorite program with them on vacation.

The HopperGO experience begins by connecting the compact, lightweight device to a Hopper 2 or Hopper 3 via USB. The connection both charges the HopperGO battery (for up to four hours of viewing) and enables users to move up to 100 hours of recorded content from the DVR to the device's 64 GB of flash memory.

HopperGO then creates a secure, private Wi-Fi cloud to play back different transferred shows on up to five devices at once, meaning several viewers can be watching a different show off HopperGO at the same time.

"We found that the biggest pain point for consumers in using our Hopper Transfers feature was running out of space to store movies and shows on their mobile devices," said Khemka. "When taking a trip, often you want to have several entertainment options, and HopperGO gives customers the ability to transport a variety of content for every member of the family, without having to worry about running out of storage."

HopperGO will be available late Q1 for a one-time cost of $99. There are no monthly fees associated with using the device.

Technical Specs

Hopper 3 is powered by a Broadcom BCM7445 quad-core ARM application processor at 1.5 GHz, 21K DMIPS. It contains a two TB hard drive for up to 500 hours of high-definition recording (or 2,000 hours of standard definition recording). For 4K viewing, the Hopper 3 can decode and output 60 FPS and 10-bit color. It supports H.264 and H.265 and is compatible with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. It is the first DVR to support USB 3.0. Hopper 3 is compatible with HDR10/BDA 2.0 encoded streams.

HopperGO has 64 GB of memory and connects to Hopper 2 and Hopper 3 via a micro USB.

About the Hopper

Introduced in 2012, the DISH Hopper provides whole-home capabilities and includes innovative technologies like the PrimeTime Anytime and AutoHop features, as well as an industry-leading 2 TB of storage. DISH introduced its Hopper 2 in 2013, adding Slingbox technology-driven DISH Anywhere functionality, making it possible for consumers to watch live and recorded content anywhere on Internet-connected tablets, smartphones and computers. The DISH Anywhere feature includes transfers, which makes remote viewing possible when no Internet connection is available. Hopper 3 is the most advanced version to date with 16 tuners, 4K integration, USB 3.0 compatibility, voice control and Netflix incorporated into search results. The Hopper is the center of the whole-home entertainment experience and connects to additional TVs via standard Joey, Wireless Joey and the soon to be released 4K Joey.
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nmoline
Now that they're planning on 4K broadcasts, can we expect the compression and artifacts to get any better on regular 1080p broadcasts? I've been very dissatisfied over the last couple years with HD broadcasts on DISH specifically for sports and live events.

The picture is dramatically better OTA than through my Hopper 2.
Tampa8
Now that they're planning on 4K broadcasts, can we expect the compression and artifacts to get any better on regular 1080p broadcasts? I've been very dissatisfied over the last couple years with HD broadcasts on DISH specifically for sports and live events.

The picture is dramatically better OTA than through my Hopper 2.

There are no 1080P broadcasts, not sure what you are referring to. Also have no idea what you mean by problems with live events? How is a live event different from a recorded one? You see a difference between a live show and a recorded one where the live show does not look as good?
bobc469
There are no 1080P broadcasts, not sure what you are referring to. Also have no idea what you mean by problems with live events? How is a live event different from a recorded one? You see a difference between a live show and a recorded one where the live show does not look as good?
There are PPV Movies available in 1080P, check the 501 channels.
Hall
A 32gb flash drive is in the Hopper as I type this. It recognized it, told me it needs formatted so that it can be used, and asked me to confirm formatting it, which I did. It's now done formatting....

Bummer.... when I tried to transfer something, it told me there's no external HDD connected.

I do think there's a 40gb minimum size requirement though so that could be the problem. Second, it could be that it's not a powered drive, though I am not sure that's the case.
ashutto20
Did Scott ever find out ifthe 4 screens can be used if we don't have a 4k tv???

Thanks and great coverage Scott and satguys as always!!!
Scott Greczkowski
Did Scott ever find out ifthe 4 screens can be used if we don't have a 4k tv???

Thanks and great coverage Scott and satguys as always!!!

Nope because no one could test it, they released new software removing the feature again so they won't be able to retest it again until the feature is added back in.

I do know using a sling box and starting a 4K movie causes the Slingbox (hooked up via component cables) to say there is no video input when the 4K is being displayed.


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Voyager6
Nope because no one could test it, they released new software removing the feature again so they won't be able to retest it again until the feature is added back in.

I do know using a sling box and starting a 4K movie causes the Slingbox (hooked up via component cables) to say there is no video input when the 4K is being displayed.


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Are you confirming that you have been testing a H3? ;)
navychop
Oh, Almighty1 (I just HAD to say that): With the number of write cycles on a SSD being limited, I'd think them a poor choice for use as a "sort of" DVR.
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Oh, Almighty1 (I just HAD to say that): With the number of write cycles on a SSD being limited, I'd think them a poor choice for use as a "sort of" DVR.
That was my concern as well but it appears that even spinners as the traditional HD's are call still have limited load/unload cycles which is 300,000 if you actually read the spec sheets for hard drives and many drives in my experience can fail anytime before that happens. Read this and you will see that a hard drive can have 43,000 load/unload cycles in just 327 hours alone:
http://wp.xin.at/archives/1221

Even the current Western Digital Black Label 3.5" drives has a lifetime of 300,000 cycles. I consider Western Digital more reliable than Seagate drives as even the firmware on Seagate aka Shugart Technology is not reliable. The only reason they are even good is because they bought CDC (Control Data Corporation)/Imprimis which made the best drives on the market and where the Barracuda drives originated from.

See the spec sheet yourself:
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf

Only Hitachi Global Storage Technology which was IBMs storage division has 1,000,000 unload/load cycles but ask all the people with DeskStars who had DeathStars that had their drives died without warning in the last 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGST_Deskstar

The drive I have the Samsung Pro 850 SSD has the following specs:
Lifespan with 20GiB of Host Writes per Day with 1.5x Write Amplification 282.74 years
Lifespan with 100GiB of Host Writes per Day with 3x Write Amplification 56.55 years

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8239/update-on-samsung-850-pro-endurance-vnand-die-size

and it comes with a ten year warranty as well plus it's not subject to shocks and vibration or mechanical failure.

MicroSD cards on the other hard is way more risky as I have a SanDisk 200GB MicroSD which is the largest capacity available and the only model available, the card stopped allowing writing after 1.5 months but that's due to the size of the item and they can't put in all the things to make it more reliable. There are always trade offs in all scenarios and this is only a external HDD so unless you use it for buffering, you usually will not have a problem since the 92% capacity of my Hopper 1 for example, the stuff is just things recorded since the last 5 years that I have not watched yet. Once I watch it, it will be archived or deleted.

I deal with 5,000+ servers daily with a 99.6% reliability rate for the last 22 years as I own and run a Internet Service provider so I would know what's reliable and what's not. All you have to do to kill your hard drive or the one in the hopper is while it is on, keep it vertical and let it fall on the hard surface floors, it will kill it immediately as I had done before with a Comcast Motorola/General Instruments DVR accidentally one time. I forgot to mention in 1997, I was the one who ran the home network remotely which had servers running Unix at the home of the founders of Concentric Network Corporation which is now XO Communications and one of the servers was running a Seagate ST41800UW which was basically a 5.25" Full Height 8GB Ultra-Wide SCSI Hard Drive that shook the entire case when it was used. One time someone hacked the system and the next thing we know 30 minutes later, he wrote some software that made the HD spin backwards and kill the drive. Even Seagate was unable to fix it and neither were the Data Recovery companies like Ontrack, DriveSavers, etc.

In the last 7 years I had SSD's, SDCard and MicroSD cards which is in the hundreds, only the one I mentioned had failed and it still allows reading the data, it just doesn't allow formating, erasing or
writing. Yet every hard drive I have bought and used since 1985 which is also in the hundreds other than the 2 x Western Digital 2.5" 750GB 7200rpm Black Label drive has failed atleast once with warranty replacements.

See this review as well:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404258,00.asp

"As far as longevity goes, while it is true that SSDs wear out over time (each cell in a flash memory bank has a limited number of times it can be written and erased), thanks to TRIM command technology built into SSDs that dynamically optimizes these read/write cycles, you're more likely to discard the system for obsolescence before you start running into read/write errors. The possible exceptions are high-end multimedia users like video editors who read and write data constantly, but those users will need the larger capacities of hard drives anyway. Hard drives will eventually wear out from constant use as well, since they use physical recording methods. Longevity is a wash when it's separated from travel and ruggedness concerns."
Scott Greczkowski
Are you confirming that you have been testing a H3? ;)
Nope just asked the question. But I have accessed them through slingboxes before.
K
There are PPV Movies available in 1080P, check the 501 channels.
Don't forget films are 1080p @ 24 frames per second which is actually LESS bandwidth than 1080i@60 FIELDS per second.
K
A 32gb flash drive is in the Hopper as I type this. It recognized it, told me it needs formatted so that it can be used, and asked me to confirm formatting it, which I did. It's now done formatting....

Bummer.... when I tried to transfer something, it told me there's no external HDD connected.

I do think there's a 40gb minimum size requirement though so that could be the problem. Second, it could be that it's not a powered drive, though I am not sure that's the case.
I just tried a USB 3.0 16 GB Sandisk Extreme in my Hopper and it worked. So there does not appear to be a minimum size limit.

USB power may be the determining factor in whether a storage device will work or not. USB 2.0 is supposed to supply 500 mA (2.5 watts). SSDs should fall under this but a 2.5" hard drive may spill over and a 3.5" will take 2-3 times more power. USB power is also supposed to be limited to prevent power supply or other circuit failures when a port is overloaded.

Some older USB flash drives are also very slow and could prevent their use as external DVR storage.

In my test, I transferred 8 GB in 16 minutes which is only about 8.3 MB/s or 66 Mb/s. It's been a while since I timed a transfer to my external hard drive but it really didn't feel that much slower. The flash drive I tested with is faster than the typical hard drive so I doubt it was a contributing factor to the transfer time.

While it appears USB flash drives work, I'd caution against their use since it's not supported. They are also smaller than typical hard drives and SSDs, and more costly.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Bruce
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4
dfergie
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...