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billybgame
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Best(i.e. cheapest) way to have 6 TV DVR service now?

I had Dish for years. Finally bailed due to their excessive extra box fees(722s, I think). But, I hate Charter(already knew I did and would), more.

I know that even though they had the glorious Hopper, years ago, when I set up service at our new house, I opted for regular receivers. I have 6 rooms that need cable. Maybe not necessarily 6 rooms that need DVRs. Maybe only 3. But, sure seemed to me the 722's was the cheapest way to go. Until they jacked up the extra box fees, that is, and made me flee.

So, now pondering what to do. Even thinking about pulling the cable plug. But, I'm a sports nut, so that is very difficult for me to do.

From what I can see, we'd need 2 Hoppers and 4 Joeys...not even sure if that's correct. Sounds expensive!

Advice anyone?

I recall not giving a hoot about recording 8 shows at a time, blah, blah, blah. I guess it has some ok features. I'm more about reasonably having cable TV on 6 TVs and DVRs on some of them. That's what's important to us.
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All those Charter fees go away with Tivo. That's the whole point of it. I'm paying $115 for Charter internet/TV/phone with a mid-tier channel package (like AT250), including HBO/SHO/MAX. That's far cheaper than any comparable satellite package. Plus Charter has about 50% more HD channels than satellite.
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billybgame
Not sure how you quote here now.....mdavej.....I'd love to hear more about how you do that...what exact TIVO equipment....can you PM me?

I do also know I read where you can have issues, with the cable techs, as they won't know anything about the cards.
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Just watch for deals. I currently have a $300 4-tuner Roamio with lifetime and several Minis at $69 each from Woot (that deal comes and goes). You can't get the Roamio deal I got anymore, but you can buy used for about $100 more. You can also use an OTA Roamio and add your own cable card bracket to it. Those are $300 on Amazon from time to time (not at the moment).

If you don't get lifetime, best deal these days is a new Bolt for around $250, first year of service free, $150/yr (works out to $12.50/mo) thereafter.

The beauty of the Minis is they're always subscription free. That saves you $7 a pop over a Charter box. Each pays for itself in 10 months.

Additional things I bought were a couple of Moca adapters, QWERTY remotes and a bigger hard drive.

When you get tired of Charter, resale value on lifetime Tivos is excellent. You'll probably get back what you paid and then some, making them essentially free.

As for the cards, that's a total crap shoot. Goes really smooth sometimes, is a nightmare other times. I've probably activated cards a dozen times over the years and my experience has been all over the map. Just take solace in the fact that it will all eventually work out once you get the right person on the other end of the phone.
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Ok...I'll keep that all in mind. I did a quick Ebay check.....will see what those Roamios are going for. And Minis too....so with your setup, you don't need cards?

Seemed cable tv used to be so simple:)
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One card per Roamio or Bolt (up to 6 tuners), not for the Minis. Roamio/Bolt and Minis are like Genie and Minis or Hopper and Joeys. The main DVR does everything. Mini or Joey is just a remote client.

Cable tv is simple. Saving money isn't.
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Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Bruce
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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, Fiber soon after, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

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Spectrum Loses 233,000 Internet and 77,000 TV Customers in Third Quarter As Cord Cutting 2.0 Grows | Cord Cutters News

Charter Communications reported a further erosion of its core broadband base in the third quarter of 2026, with Spectrum losing 233,000 Internet customers on a pro forma basis that incorporates the recently completed Cox acquisition. Residential accounts accounted for nearly all of the decline...
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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.
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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.
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I think the cable companies didnt either, back when they had no real competition in their footprint.

But today, for many, maybe even most, cable isnt the only choice, or even the best.
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We are looking for new Cutting Edge Stream members.

We are looking to find DirecTV Stream customers who are interested in pre-beta testing new Stream hardware and software, and who enjoy the testing process. You must agree to provide rigoorous feedback to DIRECTV on a regular basis. See the Welcome to the Cutting Edge message.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
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NO.
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