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I was told by a DIRT member that my desired configuration is not supported by the Hopper 3.

Current System:
(4) TV's ---> (2) Hoppers and (2) Joey's

Desired System:
(4) TV's ---> (1) Hopper 3, (2) regular Joey's, and (1) 4K Joey.


From DIRT:
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Unfortunately I cannot set up the Hopper 3 configuration for your setup at this time and
we do not know when this type of installation will be possible. You can check back with us at a later date to see if this is possible.
>>>

Can this possibly be correct?
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I only have one dish and am located near Washington DC, which given it's population would affect a lot of people. I looked at the thread you referenced and I've asked for a clarification on why not.
RandallW@DISH
I only have one dish and am located near Washington DC, which given it's population would affect a lot of people. I looked at the thread you referenced and I've asked for a clarification on why not.

My agent is reaching back out to you to verify your orbital locations.
TheKrell
He should be fine for an H3 since he has an H2 on EA. The only thing that should work but isn't very appealing is the (2) regular Joeys. Those should be (2) Joey 2's.
W
Aaron Huber is from Portland Oregon:
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I think there are really two problems - customers who are actually in one of those zip codes, and I'm guessing they may really be out of luck. Then there are customers like me who had some data in the system saying we needed multiple or larger dishes but that isn't actually the case. In my situation I talked to 5 different people at Dish, even retention saying get me a Hopper 3 now or I'll cancel and call DirecTV, and they could not figure out how to fix their system.

Eventually this is what they did:
  • Scheduled a tech visit for a dish relocate (told me they would charge $50 for it) and put notes on the work order to make sure to bring the Hopper 3 (was probably on the truck anyway)
  • Once the tech got here, he looked up at my dish, said that's stupid, and proceeded with my install. From listening to him on the phone what he did was mark the "relocate" work order done and call in a new work order for the upgrade, which went right through.
  • Install completed with no issues
  • Just now I chatted with Dish support and asked them to credit me for the $50 fee and they did immediately. I didn't pay anything for the upgrade.
If you are being told you can't get a Hopper 3 and you already have a 1000.2 (or you're confident one will work based on houses near you) then I wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing.
Aaron​

Here's my response:

My story is very similar, talked to multiple CSRs and DIRTs told it isn't possible, finally a DIRT setup an appointment for a site evaluation, the tech showed up today, determined a Hopper 3 install will work fine at my location suburb of Seattle WA (he said I have to call Dish to setup a separate appointment for the Hopper 3 install), I thought everything finally would be done, the CSR I contacted even saw the tech comments saying I'm eligible for a Hopper 3, but they get to the end of getting everything setup for the work order then it won't let them complete it saying I'm ineligible for a Hopper 3, I told the CSR I know, I've been through this multiple times and the tech who just visited cleared me for a Hopper 3 and the CSR said there is nothing they can do, even after going offline to talk to a supervisor, I said so your computer system knows more than a tech who was just at my property and CSR wouldn't budge UNBELIEVABLE!!!!, so I asked to speak to the supervisor. Your computer system knows more than a tech who was just at my property? Just unbelievable stupidity. Here's an example of some of the conversation with the original CSR and the supervisor today 2/6/2016 after the tech left with me trying to get a Hopper 3 install appointment due to the tech green lighting the install:

Ma. Kriselda (ID: DNG): Your installation is not possible because the equipment the Hopper 3 uses can only look at three satellites when paired with a side dish, and does not support the four satellites your installation requires
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I told the CSR to call the tech that just left, gave the CSR the cell phone number and tech's name, the CSR refused. Just absolutely awful customer service.

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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): Well, here's the deal, normally after a tech out, we send a field technician supervisor
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): he's going to give us a second opinion
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): As much as I wanted to set up a technician out, this will result into same situation so I have this one escalated to our Tech Ops Team.
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Wayne Reibold: do i have an appointment tomorrow or not? you said you set it up so is it setup or not?
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): Unfortunately not.
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): I just had a word that it won't improve the situation since it is a known issue for customers located in low beam fill areas like South Hill WA
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Wayne Reibold: so am I supposed to get a call from some tech ops team? or where is all of this headed?
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): It is highly possible that you may receive a call or email but I can't guarantee the time frame since they are checking on it as we speak
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): We're coming up with the best solution not just for you but for all people whose affected with this situation
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): and Imagine it's not possible without a help coming from a person named Wayne Reibold
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Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): you'll be like a hero in this
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Wayne Reibold: you talked about a field tech supervisor coming out to assess my situation, is that happening or not??
Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): That's is our protocol regardless if you asked me to do it or not. Meaning it's part of our Standard Operating Procedures to check every technicians work Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): They could knock on your door though it's not always the case.
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Wayne Reibold: here's my opinion: I think your computer system is WRONG for my account and that the tech who was just here is correct
Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): You're talking to a supervisor who's been with Dish for couple of years
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Wayne Reibold: who has not been at my home and not talked to the Dish tech who just left my home
Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): I know you might not have faith in me but trust me, I've been with worse situation than this
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Wayne Reibold: you're still discounting the tech's visit and conclusion and I have ZERO confidence I will get a follow-up on this
Supervisor - Lawrence (ID: T7Z): I'm sorry if you feel that way. We have left detailed notes on the account in regard to everything that we have discussed.

By the way I gave the supervisor the tech's name and cell phone number pleading to call him but he refused to call him. Forget logic.
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He should be fine for an H3 since he has an H2 on EA. The only thing that should work but isn't very appealing is the (2) regular Joeys. Those should be (2) Joey 2's.

I don't see how they could hold me up as they can bring Joey 2's and take back my Joey 1's.
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My agent is reaching back out to you to verify your orbital locations.

My orbital locations are:

3 LNB's listed in row G on the system status screen
77, 72, 61.5, and X

Also, I only have 1 dish.
cfunk
Same setup as mine I was told I have too many orbital locations
RandallW@DISH
My orbital locations are:

3 LNB's listed in row G on the system status screen
77, 72, 61.5, and X

Also, I only have 1 dish.

Send me a pm with your account and pin and I can check it out.
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.
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Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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dishstaller
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
ncted
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
B
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
(((Garyd)))
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
Jimbo
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
The weak point would be the connection between the outdoor feed and the indoor feed.
Jimbo
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.
Bruce
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Bruce
Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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