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Tampa8 said:

A correction and some clarification.
DISH has two orbital locations. Your locals are on both if he lives where you do. You will want the Western location because that is the only direction where the German channels are, otherwise if install the Eastern location you will have two dishes.

I believe you can get the equipment from DISH without a contract if you forego the new customer discounts, and if so I highly recommend that over buying all the equipment. If you buy your equipment and have no contract you won't get the new customer discounts anyway. There are no monthly/fee savings in buying your own equipment. Contact a DIRT member here they can give the best way to do what you want.

Yes used equipment is always locked out if there is a balance unless it gets paid off. If you have a receiver already that can still be used with DISH (Some can no longer be activated) you can use it.

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JSheridan said:

If all of the WA has been converted to 8PSK then the difference would be between MPEG2 and MPEG4. I'm not sure of the current status but I do know that the signals are not measured the same.

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Troch77 said:

Well Eastern Arc may have a lower accepted range for activation according to Dish than western arc.
But my guess is overall it's a weaker arc.
Which is why we experienced more rain fade when we switched over years ago.
I've also seen many others report Western arc with exception the 129 to be less rain fade prone.



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JSheridan said:

I've had a lot of experience with both arcs and if you compare the same types of transmissions on either arc they are almost identical. If you look at the signal levels on 129, which is where most of the WA HD comes from, you'll see what I mean. SD MPEG2 is always going to be a stronger signal than HD MPEG4.

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Troch77 said:

I can't look at the 129, unless I cut a tree down.
The Neighbor might not like that too much .

I'll do some more tooling around with them when I get some time.

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JSheridan said:

LOL. Don't make the neighbor mad.

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Troch77 said:

After installing and seeing the signal strengths on my 1000 plus dish. I would certainly try and go Western arc.
The 1000 plus is a little big , but well worth it.
I only paid $80 for the complete used, (but excellent condition ) dish. But they do go for around $130 new
After seeing the HD and SD PQ differences between arcs the SD is quite a bit better on Eastern arc,, but HD I can't say I saw a difference.
But my western arc experience was breif, I'm only now using the 61.5,72,and 118.
But if simple and reliability is a concern, I would go with a 211k or Z.
You can buy either one for around $90 brand new.
So I wouldn't bother with used.
It's too risky vs the new cost of one.

They are simple to hook up, and they are never picky with check switch and other lnb and multiswitch issues.

The Hoppers I've noticed can be very picky when it comes to ports,nodes and multiswitch connections.








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