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New Carbon UI on Hopper w/ Sling: OTA Mess !!!

I finally upgraded this week to the Hopper w/ Sling from the Hopper 2000.... The DISH techs onsite downloaded the new Carbon UI to all my new receivers (2 Hoppers w/ Sling, 4 Joeys 2.0) .... I did not want the Hopper 3 after reading here about all the OTA issues it was having with the Joeys....

However, the OTA issues on the new Carbon UI are also serious, whereas I had no OTA issues under the old UI...

1) If you try to do a new OTA scan and the first OTA channel (originally scanned) listed is "not locked", the receiver will shut down and re-boot.... Has happened over 10 times in a row !!!...
Only when the first OTA channel is "locked" will the receiver then proceed to scan again.... Confirmed it on the 2 Hoppers w/ Sling, so it's not a receiver issue, it must be a software issue with the new carbon UI, right ?

2) The "info" screen on OTA channels is missing the OTA antenna's "Signal Strength" meter reading..... The only way to know your signal strength now is to go back into the OTA menu section, look for the OTA channel in the long list of scanned channels, and select it there.... But, again, if the first channel on that list is "not locked", the receiver will shut down and re-boot over and over again.... So now it's almost impossible to know your antenna strength numbers unless you put yourself through this agony...

3) The OTA scanned channels inside the menu's scanned list has a programming mistake..... The channels will appear out of order because instead of starting at channel 02, 03, 04, etc., it starts at Channel 10.... So if you have a local channel 2 it will get inserted in-between 10 and 30; Channel 4, between 30 and 50; Channel 6, between 50 and 70, and so on....It has nothing to do with their RF frequencies, it's their virtual numbers that are out of order....

4) And, hard to believe, but DISH in this new UI got rid altogether of the RF frequency input option, as we had available for years, and which they had been promising, in the original Hopper UI, as "this feature coming soon." HA !!!

Can others here confirm my conclusions above ? Or did I get some things wrong ??? Thanks !!!
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I'm positive others have indicated the same thing happening to them, but another shortcoming with OTA on the H2 is the inability to add or delete channels from the scanned list. It simply doesn't save any changes that you make (the "Save" button does nothing).
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dennispap
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Hall said:
I'm positive others have indicated the same thing happening to them, but another shortcoming with OTA on the H2 is the inability to add or delete channels from the scanned list. It simply doesn't save any changes that you make (the "Save" button does nothing).
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I was having that problem too. To get it to save the channels, after you do a scan you must check/select all of the channels and then hit save. On the old ui after you scanned you would then hit save and it saved them all. Now with the Carbon after you do a scan you must check all of the channels and then hit save. Took me a few times to figure it out.
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ralfyguy
ralfyguy
Well that promise is now taken off. I don't believe it's gonna happen. They have too much to do with getting everything else running smoothly.
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h2ouup2
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The OTA doesn't break up on my Wireless Joey's, but is bad on the H3 and the 4K Joey. There are video break ups, but mostly sound drops every 5-7 seconds. I watch the same show on the wireless joey, and it's much better.

I don't know whats going on, but I wish they would fix it.

The reason I want the OTA is I get around 20+ channels OTA that are not offered on DISH.

I too wish I could weed out the OTA programs I don't want to show up on the EPG. I don't need any of the Spanish programs, but currently I have to have all or nothing in the guide.
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ralfyguy
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My reason for having OTA is not only channels I don't get from Dish, but also being able to watch the severe weather news when dish lost signal. Unless it rips the antennas off my house, I still have info from the TV no matter how bad it is.
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ralfyguy said:
My reason for having OTA is not only channels I don't get from Dish, but also being able to watch the severe weather news when dish lost signal. Unless it rips the antennas off my house, I still have info from the TV no matter how bad it is.
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I have a splitter on my antenna coax just before the OTA adapter. I have one side to the adapter and the other going directly to the TV. If push comes to shove, I simply turn the TV on to it's antenna input and I have locals that way.
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dennispap said:
I was having that problem too. To get it to save the channels, after you do a scan you must check/select all of the channels and then hit save. On the old ui after you scanned you would then hit save and it saved them all. Now with the Carbon after you do a scan you must check all of the channels and then hit save. Took me a few times to figure it out.
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That did work. I had ~5 channels from a TBN affiliate removed from the saved scan list as well as a couple others that don't come in reliably enough to watch, so I removed those as well. Now, with the Carbon UI, I was in fact able to save the list and they show in the guide... but that's not what I want. Not a big deal, but now I just need to block those channels. As it is, this is the only way to get new OTA channels to be included in the guide too.
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AI Hiking Advice Nearly Turns Deadly on Mount Shasta #shorts

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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.
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nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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man00
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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dishstaller said:
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Godzilla Minus Zero


View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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dfergie said:

View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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primestar31 said:
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
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New trailer has dropped:
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Looks good! I'm interested...
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