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Last reply Aug 29, 2016 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Real news channel

We finally got a real weather channel. Any chance we'll get a real news channel (i.e., one that has not obsessed about US elections for the last 2 years to the exclusion of all else)?

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MitchDeerfield

Aug 27, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Correction, DISH carries BBCWN you just don't like the package it is in.

They told me I was ineligible for BBC World News, maybe you can contact them and change their policy.

Tampa8

Aug 27, 2016

MitchDeerfield said:
They told me I was ineligible for BBC World News, maybe you can contact them and change their policy.

I'll play along. So why does DISH not allow you to get BBCWN? Is it because you don't have the Flex Pack?

Juan

Aug 27, 2016

Tampa8 said:
I'll play along. So why does DISH not allow you to get BBCWN? Is it because you don't have the Flex Pack?

And pay more money for fewer channels..what a steal!!!

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Tampa8

Aug 27, 2016

Anyone who says that has no understanding of what A La Carte is, or how it has to work. There are many people just in this forum alone who are paying much less per month but getting the channels they want, or close enough to that. If you choose to be closed minded on the different ways to get programming that's on you. Meanwhile DISH is moving forward with a good effort to lowering the cost to get substantially the channels you want. What good is it to pay less per channel but end up paying for many channels some expensive you don't want? Why not pay more per channel but in the end pay less per month for the substantially the channels you want?

Juan_ said:
And pay more money for fewer channels..what a steal!!!

Jim S. said:
Yes, the channel gerrymandering on the flex pack is actually worse than the standard packages.

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Juan

Aug 27, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Anyone who says that has no understanding of what A La Carte is, or how it has to work. There are many people just in this forum alone who are paying much less per month but getting the channels they want, or close enough to that. If you choose to be closed minded on the different ways to get programming that's on you. Meanwhile DISH is moving forward with a good effort to lowering the cost to get substantially the channels you want. What good is it to pay less per channel but end up paying for many channels some expensive you don't want? Why not pay more per channel but in the end pay less per month for the substantially the channels you want?

Actually we do.what dish is really doing is a shell game designed to get uneducated viewers with poor math skills to pay more per channel than they would if they were to buy a regular packages..it's similar going to a convenience store and buying a 16 Oz soda for a 1.50..while most know you can buy a 2 liter bottle of soda for a buck at a local supermarket..this is just another way for charlieCo to take more while giving less

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Tampa8

Aug 27, 2016

Juan_ said:
Actually we do.what dish is really doing is a shell game designed to get uneducated viewers with poor math skills to pay more per channel than they would if they were to buy a regular packages..it's similar going to a convenience store and buying a 16 Oz soda for a 1.50..while most know you can buy a 2 liter bottle of soda for a buck at a local supermarket..this is just another way for charlieCo to take more while giving less

If the Top packages cost less per month yet gave more than getting the Flex package as you are trying to suggest you would have a point. Since it cost less and can cost much less to get the Flex package you have no point and made mine and others.

Let me help you. You can go to Costco, Sams's or BJ's warehouse and get the bulk Tomato Sauce. It's a huge can but per ounce it is less than getting a smaller Jar. But you constantly have to throw out part of it because you never use all of it. So the actual cost is much closer than you first thought. On top of that you keep paying $25 more every time you buy it than getting the smaller jar of sauce. By paying that $25 more you can't go out for breakfast a couple of times or save it for something bigger.

So you switch and get the smaller Jar saving $25 each time. It does cost more per ounce but you are saving $25 every time you buy it and you are using the same amount you were before - and here's an important part you aren't going hungry and you have more money for other things.
THAT's the Flex package system. If you find you are going hungry then perhaps the bigger package would be worth it.

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The Fat Man

Aug 27, 2016

Tampa8 said:
If the Top packages cost less per month yet gave more than getting the Flex package as you are trying to suggest you would have a point. Since it cost less and can cost much less to get the Flex package you have no point and made mine and others.

Let me help you. You can go to Costco, Sams's or BJ's warehouse and get the bulk Tomato Sauce. It's a huge can but per ounce it is less than getting a smaller Jar. But you constantly have to throw out part of it because you never use all of it. So the actual cost is much closer than you first thought. On top of that you keep paying $25 more every time you buy it than getting the smaller jar of sauce. By paying that $25 more you can't go out for breakfast a couple of times or save it for something bigger.

So you switch and get the smaller Jar saving $25 each time. It does cost more per ounce but you are saving $25 every time you buy it and you are using the same amount you were before - and here's an important part you aren't going hungry and you have more money for other things.
THAT's the Flex package system. If you find you are going hungry then perhaps the bigger package would be worth it.

I haven't done the math. But, let's say that I want every channel offered in AT200, and decided to get them through the Flex Pack. By what you are saying, I can get them cheaper this way. Is that true? I'm willing to speculate that if I wanted every channel that I currently get, it would be more expensive, or just the same, to get the Flex pack with every add on.

Tampa8

Aug 27, 2016

The Fat Man said:
I haven't done the math. But, let's say that I want every channel offered in AT200, and decided to get them through the Flex Pack. By what you are saying, I can get them cheaper this way. Is that true? I'm willing to speculate that if I wanted every channel that I currently get, it would be more expensive, or just the same, to get the Flex pack with every add on.

You have it exactly backwards. !0000% backwards!

It's every channel (or darn close) you want is in the Flex Package, channels you do not ever watch are in the Top 200.

If you want every channel in the Top 200 - then that's at the least the package you want. You want ESPN, your RSN(s) your locals, etc etc. So no, DISH or really anyone else (Traditional) does not offer those channels for less. The Flex Package is for those who don't want to pay Top 200 $80 or $65v(With two year contract) for TV because they don't want ESPN, and/or their RSN, and/or locals etc. The Flex Package is the first one anywhere by a traditional provider that has very close to all the cable channels commonly watched or expected with little sports, no locals, etc at a price of $29.99 if you do autopay with contract or $34.99 no contract. Even adding locals, @ $40 or $45 (with no contract) if those are the channels you want why pay $80 or $65? If you find getting the Flex package means adding every ad on they have I would say look at a regular package instead.

And I should add before your only choice was to downgrade to another package still with channels you don't want and give up some you do want. Dropping to the Top 120 for instance saves but at the cost of losing several cable channels. Flex may have some you still don't want but they are less expensive as witnessed by the $29.99 price for all that are included. In the past it would take getting the Top 200 to get some of the cable channels in the Flex Pack. And it appears DISH is adding some channels to the add ons in Flex so you have a choice that they may not otherwise have added at least so far it looks that way.

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Tampa8

Aug 28, 2016

Alas, I have to agree.

Juan

Aug 28, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Alas, I have to agree.

There are plenty of free options for the cost conscience..but I am sure unless you are under 30 you would not be familiar with them..Flex works fine for the senior citizen crowd but it really is too little too late

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Tampa8

Aug 28, 2016

Juan_ said:
There are plenty of free options for the cost conscience..but I am sure unless you are under 30 you would not be familiar with them..Flex works fine for the senior citizen crowd but it really is too little too late

Lol - I am well past 30 and I bet I had Kodi before almost anyone here (and when it was SPMC) - because I signed up for developmental and evaluation editions. Kodi has alot, but streams come and go, managing the changes beyond the simple updates - like when you have to get a whole new Repository is not for everyone. As time goes on it may become more automated because it already is over the first editions. Also sometimes the streams are very good, others have buffering problems that has nothing to do with how good or fast your internet is. You throw out there are "free options" but if it was that simple and easy everyone would just do it. It isn't and nothing like coming home from work and turning on the TV and having the DVR all set up to record or for you to play back your shows. I have extensive knowledge of how to set up Kodi and I get frustrated with it sometimes just fooling around with it or to watch something like EuroNews - an example of a stream that does not stay constant and you have to find it.

Juan

Aug 28, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Lol - I am well past 30 and I bet I had Kodi before almost anyone here (and when it was SPMC) - because I signed up for developmental and evaluation editions. Kodi has alot, but streams come and go, managing the changes beyond the simple updates - like when you have to get a whole new Repository is not for everyone. As time goes on it may become more automated because it already is over the first editions. Also sometimes the streams are very good, others have buffering problems that has nothing to do with how good or fast your internet is. You throw out there are "free options" but if it was that simple and easy everyone would just do it. It isn't and nothing like coming home from work and turning on the TV and having the DVR all set up to record or for you to play back your shows. I have extensive knowledge of how to set up Kodi and I get frustrated with it sometimes just fooling around with it or to watch something like EuroNews - an example of a stream that does not stay constant and you have to find it.

the under 30 crowd just doesn't watch tv like we do..this whole flex pack will be a major bust..a last gasp of a dying industry..

KAB

Aug 28, 2016

Juan_ said:
the under 30 crowd just doesn't watch tv like we do..this whole flex pack will be a major bust..a last gasp of a dying industry..

Typical negative Juan spin. The under 30, cost-conscious demo is prime for Flex.

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Juan

Aug 28, 2016

KAB said:
Typical negative Juan spin. The under 30, cost-conscious demo is prime for Flex.

I am not the company losing hundreds of thousands of customers..I just think the "Flex Pack" makes dish look like a shady used car dealer

bobvick

Aug 28, 2016

Juan_ said:
I am not the company losing hundreds of thousands of customers..I just think the "Flex Pack" makes dish look like a shady used car dealer

I think it makes them look like a forward thinking video provider. Verizon has something similar, it is now one of their top packages. It appears that the "skinny" package is en vogue right now, so good for Dish, and good for the subscribers that want it. You'll see AT&T-DirecTV, Charter, and Comcast follow.

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MikeD-C05

Aug 29, 2016

bobvick said:
I think it makes them look like a forward thinking video provider. Verizon has something similar, it is now one of their top packages. It appears that the "skinny" package is en vogue right now, so good for Dish, and good for the subscribers that want it. You'll see AT&T-DirecTV, Charter, and Comcast follow.

That is exactly what I posted weeks ago about Verizon's most popular programming pack. This Flex pack system is based on the very popular skinny bundle that Verizon pioneered back in the spring of 2015. Works for them and it can work for DISH too. Add or take away packs to your heart's content and save money over the regular programming packs. IF you hate sports and your kids are grown up , you don't have to pay for those packs. Or if you hate women's programming like OWN , then no heartland pack is needed. The only thing I can see that I would change, is to add the rest of the channels that aren't in the packs , like MTV and BBC America. Till then, I will just buy the show seasons of the shows on those channels and watch them on Amazon Prime.

Juan

Aug 29, 2016

bobvick said:
I think it makes them look like a forward thinking video provider. Verizon has something similar, it is now one of their top packages. It appears that the "skinny" package is en vogue right now, so good for Dish, and good for the subscribers that want it. You'll see AT&T-DirecTV, Charter, and Comcast follow.

Yes but Verizon doesn't offer exclusive channels in its skinny packages....BBCWN is part of a regular package..that's the real issue

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Tampa8

Aug 29, 2016

MikeD-C05 said:
That is exactly what I posted weeks ago about Verizon's most popular programming pack. This Flex pack system is based on the very popular skinny bundle that Verizon pioneered back in the spring of 2015. Works for them and it can work for DISH too. Add or take away packs to your heart's content and save money over the regular programming packs. IF you hate sports and your kids are grown up , you don't have to pay for those packs. Or if you hate women's programming like OWN , then no heartland pack is needed. The only thing I can see that I would change, is to add the rest of the channels that aren't in the packs , like MTV and BBC America. Till then, I will just buy the show seasons of the shows on those channels and watch them on Amazon Prime.

Well I agree Fios started the concept but IMO I don't think you would be happy with it or at least as happy as how DISH did it they are far advanced.

$55 and two choices
"The full lineup for the Sports & More option includes the broadcast networks, whatever regional sports station(s) FiOs carries in your area, and: AccuWeather, AMC, ASPiRE, AWE, Big Ten 1, Big Ten 2, Big Ten Network, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Cartoon Network, CBS Sports Network, CCTV News, CNBC, CNBC World, CNN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, C-SPAN 3, Daystar, Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, FX, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, HSN, Longhorn Network (TX only), Liquidation Channel, Mnet, MTV, Music Choice, NBCSN, NFL Network, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, SEC Network (TX and FL only), Syfy, TBS, TeenNick, TNT, truTV, USA, Velocity, and VH1

Custom TV Essentials adds on a bunch of big-name basic TV favorites (Discovery Channel, Lifetime, History, Bravo, Fox News) to what had been the core channels in the current Custom TV plan.

So in addition to the local broadcast TV networks, this package includes: A&E, ABC Family, AccuWeather, AMC, American Heroes Channel, Animal Planet, ASPIRE, BET, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Bravo, CCTV News, Centric, CMT, CNBC World, CNN, CNN HLN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN2, C-SPAN3, Daystar, Discovery Channel, Discovery Family Channel, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, E!, Esquire Network, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Business Network, Fox News, FX, FXM, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, History, HSN, IFC, Investigation Discovery, Lifetime, Liquidation Channel, LMN, Mnet, MSNBC, MTV, MTV2, Music Choice, National Geographic, National Geo Wild, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, One America News, Oxygen, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, Spike, Sprout, TeenNick, TLC, Travel Channel, Turner Classic Movies, TV Land, UP, USA, Velocity, VH1, VH1 Classic, and We TV

Both of these packages go for the same $55/month rate."

No choice on locals, no deciding if you do or don't want ESPN or other sports because they are not part of any add on to the Essentials package, and if you get the Sports and More package there is no way to get the missing cable channels.
I think the harder negotiations DISH does resulted in more flexibility.

MikeD-C05

Aug 29, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Well I agree Fios started the concept but IMO I don't think you would be happy with it or at least as happy as how DISH did it they are far advanced.

$55 and two choices
"The full lineup for the Sports & More option includes the broadcast networks, whatever regional sports station(s) FiOs carries in your area, and: AccuWeather, AMC, ASPiRE, AWE, Big Ten 1, Big Ten 2, Big Ten Network, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Cartoon Network, CBS Sports Network, CCTV News, CNBC, CNBC World, CNN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, C-SPAN 3, Daystar, Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, FX, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, HSN, Longhorn Network (TX only), Liquidation Channel, Mnet, MTV, Music Choice, NBCSN, NFL Network, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, SEC Network (TX and FL only), Syfy, TBS, TeenNick, TNT, truTV, USA, Velocity, and VH1

Custom TV Essentials adds on a bunch of big-name basic TV favorites (Discovery Channel, Lifetime, History, Bravo, Fox News) to what had been the core channels in the current Custom TV plan.

So in addition to the local broadcast TV networks, this package includes: A&E, ABC Family, AccuWeather, AMC, American Heroes Channel, Animal Planet, ASPIRE, BET, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Bravo, CCTV News, Centric, CMT, CNBC World, CNN, CNN HLN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN2, C-SPAN3, Daystar, Discovery Channel, Discovery Family Channel, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, E!, Esquire Network, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Business Network, Fox News, FX, FXM, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, History, HSN, IFC, Investigation Discovery, Lifetime, Liquidation Channel, LMN, Mnet, MSNBC, MTV, MTV2, Music Choice, National Geographic, National Geo Wild, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, One America News, Oxygen, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, Spike, Sprout, TeenNick, TLC, Travel Channel, Turner Classic Movies, TV Land, UP, USA, Velocity, VH1, VH1 Classic, and We TV

Both of these packages go for the same $55/month rate."

No choice on locals, no deciding if you do or don't want ESPN or other sports because they are not part of any add on to the Essentials package, and if you get the Sports and More package there is no way to get the missing cable channels.
I think the harder negotiations DISH does resulted in more flexibility.

Like I said , it was "BASED" on the skinny bundle that Verizon came out with in the spring of 2015. I agree that DISH took it even further with customization and options that they don't have. But the concept is similar. :oldsmile2

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MikeD-C05

Aug 29, 2016

Juan_ said:
Yes but Verizon doesn't offer exclusive channels in its skinny packages....BBCWN is part of a regular package..that's the real issue

I imagine that DISH will eventually allow these channels to become part of the top 250 or even lower packs if they want to. It is brand new and based on the contract negotiated with the channels , is whether they will add it to other packs. I think that within 6 months to a year , they might get around to adding it to top programming packs along with the MTV suite of music video channels.

OF course, they might just be putting these exclusive channels in the Flex pack ,just to attract people to the new programming pack. They also might be trying to push more existing subs to this pack as well. It was created to help retain existing subs, attract cord cutters & cord nevers, as well as attract new subs as well. So they can keep from spending all that money on retention credits and on new sub costs ,that will churn as soon as their 24 months contracts run out. The ala cart packs might be the entire direction that DISH wants to move to as a programming system. Based on how well it is received by new and existing subs , is whether they might move in that direction or move back to bundle packs with no deviation.

Charlie Ergen has said for years, he wants to be able to sell you any channel you want via ala cart ,but the channel provider companies are standing in the way of it with their forced bundles. The Flex pack and add on packs are the first step in the direction of ala cart. I hope it is successful and will transition us to full on, true ala cart.

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Joe891

Aug 29, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Well I agree Fios started the concept but IMO I don't think you would be happy with it or at least as happy as how DISH did it they are far advanced.

$55 and two choices
"The full lineup for the Sports & More option includes the broadcast networks, whatever regional sports station(s) FiOs carries in your area, and: AccuWeather, AMC, ASPiRE, AWE, Big Ten 1, Big Ten 2, Big Ten Network, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Cartoon Network, CBS Sports Network, CCTV News, CNBC, CNBC World, CNN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, C-SPAN 3, Daystar, Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, FX, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, HSN, Longhorn Network (TX only), Liquidation Channel, Mnet, MTV, Music Choice, NBCSN, NFL Network, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, SEC Network (TX and FL only), Syfy, TBS, TeenNick, TNT, truTV, USA, Velocity, and VH1

Custom TV Essentials adds on a bunch of big-name basic TV favorites (Discovery Channel, Lifetime, History, Bravo, Fox News) to what had been the core channels in the current Custom TV plan.

So in addition to the local broadcast TV networks, this package includes: A&E, ABC Family, AccuWeather, AMC, American Heroes Channel, Animal Planet, ASPIRE, BET, Bloomberg TV, Blue Highways TV, Bravo, CCTV News, Centric, CMT, CNBC World, CNN, CNN HLN, Comedy Central, C-SPAN, C-SPAN2, C-SPAN3, Daystar, Discovery Channel, Discovery Family Channel, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, E!, Esquire Network, EVINE Live, Family Net, Food Network, Fox Business Network, Fox News, FX, FXM, FXX, GSN, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Movies & Mysteries, HGTV, History, HSN, IFC, Investigation Discovery, Lifetime, Liquidation Channel, LMN, Mnet, MSNBC, MTV, MTV2, Music Choice, National Geographic, National Geo Wild, Nick Jr., Nick Toons, Nickelodeon, One America News, Oxygen, POP, QVC, QVC Plus, RLTV, Rocks TV, Spike, Sprout, TeenNick, TLC, Travel Channel, Turner Classic Movies, TV Land, UP, USA, Velocity, VH1, VH1 Classic, and We TV

Both of these packages go for the same $55/month rate."

No choice on locals, no deciding if you do or don't want ESPN or other sports because they are not part of any add on to the Essentials package, and if you get the Sports and More package there is no way to get the missing cable channels.
I think the harder negotiations DISH does resulted in more flexibility.

When verizon started it, it was completely different and actually alot more like how dish does it now, I switched to dish from that old bundle. They way they have changed must've been based off of customer feedback or demands from the networks themselves. When it started and I had it i was given about 30 channels including locals and they had about 7 or so channel packs. They have changed it alot since I have switched to dish

pattykay

Aug 29, 2016

Tampa8 said:
The Flex Package is the first one anywhere by a traditional provider that has very close to all the cable channels commonly watched or expected with little sports, no locals, etc at a price of $29.99 if you do autopay with contract or $34.99 no contract.

As I proved in the other thread, the $29.99 autopay price is available without a contract. The catch is that there is no two-year price lock without the contract.

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osu1991

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USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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osu1991

Sunday at 7:39 PM

Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.

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dishstaller

Sunday at 8:15 PM

osu1991 said:
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years

That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.

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harshness

Monday at 10:51 AM

dishstaller said:
not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage.

Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?

dishstaller

Monday at 11:26 AM

harshness said:
Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?

Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.

Jimbo

Monday at 6:36 PM

dishstaller said:
Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.

Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?

dishstaller

Monday at 8:58 PM

Jimbo said:
Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?

Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:13 PM

dishstaller said:
Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.

So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !

dishstaller

Monday at 10:49 PM

Jimbo said:
So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !

Why be such a smartbutt.
We went through a cat 5 hurricane.....the foundation is sound. Trees hitting the house are the only thing I am worried about when it comes to wind related damage.
IF you had actually been through multiple hurricanes like I have, you would know that most of the damage, unless you were stupid enough to build along the coast.....something ALL of our ancestors knew better than to do, is roof related. In a lot of cases the roof gives way and then the house suffers water damage due to the heavy rain.

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navychop

Yesterday at 9:30 AM

I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

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TRG

Yesterday at 12:02 PM

dishstaller said:
Why be such a smartbutt.
We went through a cat 5 hurricane.....the foundation is sound. Trees hitting the house are the only thing I am worried about when it comes to wind related damage.
IF you had actually been through multiple hurricanes like I have, you would know that most of the damage, unless you were stupid enough to build along the coast.....something ALL of our ancestors knew better than to do, is roof related. In a lot of cases the roof gives way and then the house suffers water damage due to the heavy rain.

A good friend of mine is a general contractor. He has quite a large network of builders throughout the U.S. In certain parts of the country roof straps, brackets, clips are a code requirement now. Older homes can be upgraded if they have attic access. These roof reinforcing methods significantly strengthen roof integrity during high wind events.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 1:03 PM

navychop said:
I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

Except you're comparing emergency care - which is available just as quickly in Canada - to scheduled outpatient diagnostics.

The last 2 CTs I needed had to be scheduled 3-5 weeks out here as well.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:15 PM

TRG said:
A good friend of mine is a general contractor. He has quite a large network of builders throughout the U.S. In certain parts of the country roof straps, brackets, clips are a code requirement now. Older homes can be upgraded if they have attic access. These roof reinforcing methods significantly strengthen roof integrity during high wind events.

Ours was built in 1986. Hurricane clips weren't required then but the man who built it obviously had my mentality and had them put on anyway. Good thing he did because it would have been very hard to find home insurance without them.
When I was young and I was helping my Dad add onto our haybarn he would go to the lumber yards and get those metal straps they used to use bundling lumber. We would cut them and strap them over the rafters. He had been through a tornado years before and had seen barn roofs lifted right off.

osu1991

Today at 8:16 AM

AI is now deciding who gets healthcare in 6 US states – and it's already harming patients | BBC Science Focus Magazine

An AI pilot programme is attempting to cut down on ‘wasteful’ medical procedures, and patients are paying the price

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thomasjk

22 minutes ago

osu1991 said:
AI is now deciding who gets healthcare in 6 US states – and it's already harming patients | BBC Science Focus Magazine

An AI pilot programme is attempting to cut down on ‘wasteful’ medical procedures, and patients are paying the price

www.sciencefocus.com

During the summer I was hospitalized prior to having a pacemaker inserted. Shortly after discharge I received a letter from United Healthcare denying the level of coverage during the hospitalization. The denial text was written by a AI that sounded like a third grader. The hospital appealed immediately and it was eventually overturned.

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tparker

Last reply Today at 8:20 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Sep 23, 2026

Two new Bonus View channels Added today:

And two Removed:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the heads up.

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

One Removed:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.

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tparker

Oct 21, 2026

Three new Bonus View channels today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.

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tparker

Oct 28, 2026

Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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bnewt

Today at 8:20 AM

Why all the changes?

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TFLEV

Today at 7:32 AM · posted in TFLEV

Geely E5 (EX5) First Drive: Meet The Toyota RAV4 of China!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvCXgeUJXS0

Direct YouTube Link - Geely E5 (EX5) First Drive: Meet The Toyota RAV4 of China!

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 7:24 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/28/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261028.xlsx 1,878 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 5:48 AM

The Election HQ Mix is now live on channels 71, 200, 202-1, 307-1, 349-1, 356-1 and 360-1, there's also a red button app on CNN, NewsNation, BBC News, NewsMax, CNBC, MS Now, FOX Business and FOX News.

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dtv757

Yesterday at 12:31 PM

Any updates on CW Norfolk for sat

Thanks

doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	266	2	1449
SD mpeg4	144		194
SD mpeg2	433	-1
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	56	18

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261104.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:24 AM

Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:29 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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sdfntx

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay & The Americans

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 11:53 PM

Closer To Heaven - Alan Parsons Project

EatMyVolts

Today at 12:38 AM

Heaven Is In Your Mind -- Traffic

hwkn

Today at 2:35 AM

HEAVEN IS A Place On Earth-Belinda Carlisle

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ClarkGable

Today at 5:29 AM

Earth Angel - The Penguins

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:20 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

110/119 Listings Post 129 Transition (Updated 11/01/2026)

Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:

Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.

There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:

During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.

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zippyfrog

Sunday at 4:47 PM

With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?

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Bobby

Sunday at 5:07 PM

zippyfrog said:
With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?

They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.

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zippyfrog

Sunday at 5:30 PM

Bobby said:
They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.

Thanks! I do have my listing correct then.

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 5:11 PM

Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now. TP 02, 04, 06, 08, 10 were all functioning as Spotbeams as of last week, but now they are ConUS.

This means all 21 transponders that Dish has access to at 119 are now ConUS.

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dishrich

Yesterday at 9:34 PM

zippyfrog said:
Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now.

Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?

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zippyfrog

Today at 5:20 AM

dishrich said:
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?

Nope - TP 1-13 are still ConUS on 110. Which is crazy...there are so many different spotbeams on the new 110 satellite compared to the older 110 or 119. Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now? If so, it looks like TP 1-13 are coming from the old satellite at 110 and 14 onward are spotbeams on the new satellite.