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The guy that I rent a room from in his home desires to change his original Hopper to a Hopper 3. We currently have 3 original Hoppers. One Hopper is the one that I bought and the other two are leased. The DISH phone tech told him that there is some type of conflict with the original Hoppers if the home owner decides to go to the Hopper 3. He didn't understand what was being told to him and wants me to investigate this.
So, does anybody know the conflicting issues? I have heard that the Hopper 3 records up to 16 shows at once but what else might I give up or gain if I was to buy one also? I'm kind of a technical person so give me what you can. Apparently DISH won't allow more than 2 Hoppers to be leased at a time unless something has changed in the past few years.
Thanks,
Dave
So, does anybody know the conflicting issues? I have heard that the Hopper 3 records up to 16 shows at once but what else might I give up or gain if I was to buy one also? I'm kind of a technical person so give me what you can. Apparently DISH won't allow more than 2 Hoppers to be leased at a time unless something has changed in the past few years.
Thanks,
Dave
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Well, upon first release of the H3, some people did get TWO H3's on one account, but it required (and still does) each H3 to have its own reflector, and even more complicated, if one needs to also see a 4th satellite, then that 4th position also needs its own reflector--for EACH H3. So, that would be 1 reflector for each of the two H3's + 1 reflector for the 4th sat for 1st H3 + 1 reflector for 4th sat for 2nd H3. That is a total of TWO reflectors for both H3's if you wanted only Core services or a total of FOUR reflectors for both H3's to also receive the 4th sat (most commonly 118).
Then several weeks later, DIRT and Dish ceased providing any installs for more than ONE H3. All those extra reflectors--even just ONE additional--is costly to Dish multiplied by all those many installs--reflectors plus LNBF's and any other support equipment, or put another way, the cost of TWO installs for only ONE subscriber, and adding more points of failure that could also cost on tech visits and fixes. As of nearly a year or so, Dish will ONLY allow the install of a second H3 on the condition that the customer agrees to have a seperate account for each H3, and those are the only known instances of multiple H3's that have been installed since Dish stopped allowing multiple H3's on one account. And for even worse matters, even if a customer who subscribe to Internationals who need to look at the 4th sat at 118 and only wants ONE H3, Dish is still saying, "NO!" to these customers because it would still require an addtional reflector to look at 118.
A new switch (DPH42) is is just recently being used in use PR (as reported by posters) and that switch will allow for economical multiple H3 installs and access to a 4th sat using only ONE reflector AND using existing DPP LNBF's that are already part of many multi-satellite installs. So for many upgrades to H3 (from Hopper, for example) it may only require a change-out of switches and Nodes and never even having to touch the mounted reflector and its LNBF's. We are presuming that once this switch is available, Dish allows multiple H3 and 4th sat installs. Until the DPH42 is available here in the USA, Dish is NOT allowing any multiple H3 installs nor any H3 installs that require looking at a 4th sat like 118 for Internationals, unless each H3 as its own account.
There are a number of posts from users who have been DENIED installs because they want eihter TWO H3's or need to look at a 4th sat. They have been given phony reasons like "low beam" for denail, only to find in a few instances that the "low beam" problem dissapears once they agree to having each H3 on seperate accounts. Some have gone to the competition after being denied. It is purely a business decision by Dish not to accomodate mulitple H3 installs or H3's that require looking at a 4th sat because any additonal refelector does cost Dish too much money for Cheap Charlie's budget.
There is even a post of one guy who only wanted ONE H3, but told he has "low beam" which prevents use of the H3. But his neighbor two doors down has an H3 intalled in his home; why is he not affected by "low beam?" he wanted to know. It was because the poor fellow requesting an upgrade to H3 was being denied was because in Dish's database it has him looking 118, a 4th satellite. After some haggling, phone calls, and back and forth, it turned out after some confirmation that he is NOT looking at 118 after all, then all of sudden the "low beam" problem that prevents the H3 from working magically went away and he was APPROVED to have an H3 installed at his home, just like his neighbor a few doors down has. Plenty more ODD posts of kookie reasons for denial that deny it has to do with the cost of multiple reflectors. Well, there was ONE post where a CSR did confirm to the poster that it was related to the cost of the additional reflector(s). A lot of people denied have felt very frustrated.
Years ago, Dish even got in troulbe with the FCC after some months later it suddenly REFUSED requests for the 2nd reflector to see other, smaller LiL channels subscribers were entitled to access as per Federal law, with some CSR's even citing the cost (oops! They weren't supposed to tell the customers that
). Clearly Charlie wanted to end the additional costs for as long as possible until, of course, finally, after complaints (and competitors notifying them, as well) the FCC officially orderd Dish to CEASE its refusal to accomodate subscriber's requesting a 2nd reflector to see their additional LIL's as per law. In this matter of multiple H3's, no such requirement by law, so we wait upon the DPH42 for households who want or even need more than one H3 and still watch Internationals at 118.
Then several weeks later, DIRT and Dish ceased providing any installs for more than ONE H3. All those extra reflectors--even just ONE additional--is costly to Dish multiplied by all those many installs--reflectors plus LNBF's and any other support equipment, or put another way, the cost of TWO installs for only ONE subscriber, and adding more points of failure that could also cost on tech visits and fixes. As of nearly a year or so, Dish will ONLY allow the install of a second H3 on the condition that the customer agrees to have a seperate account for each H3, and those are the only known instances of multiple H3's that have been installed since Dish stopped allowing multiple H3's on one account. And for even worse matters, even if a customer who subscribe to Internationals who need to look at the 4th sat at 118 and only wants ONE H3, Dish is still saying, "NO!" to these customers because it would still require an addtional reflector to look at 118.
A new switch (DPH42) is is just recently being used in use PR (as reported by posters) and that switch will allow for economical multiple H3 installs and access to a 4th sat using only ONE reflector AND using existing DPP LNBF's that are already part of many multi-satellite installs. So for many upgrades to H3 (from Hopper, for example) it may only require a change-out of switches and Nodes and never even having to touch the mounted reflector and its LNBF's. We are presuming that once this switch is available, Dish allows multiple H3 and 4th sat installs. Until the DPH42 is available here in the USA, Dish is NOT allowing any multiple H3 installs nor any H3 installs that require looking at a 4th sat like 118 for Internationals, unless each H3 as its own account.
There are a number of posts from users who have been DENIED installs because they want eihter TWO H3's or need to look at a 4th sat. They have been given phony reasons like "low beam" for denail, only to find in a few instances that the "low beam" problem dissapears once they agree to having each H3 on seperate accounts. Some have gone to the competition after being denied. It is purely a business decision by Dish not to accomodate mulitple H3 installs or H3's that require looking at a 4th sat because any additonal refelector does cost Dish too much money for Cheap Charlie's budget.
There is even a post of one guy who only wanted ONE H3, but told he has "low beam" which prevents use of the H3. But his neighbor two doors down has an H3 intalled in his home; why is he not affected by "low beam?" he wanted to know. It was because the poor fellow requesting an upgrade to H3 was being denied was because in Dish's database it has him looking 118, a 4th satellite. After some haggling, phone calls, and back and forth, it turned out after some confirmation that he is NOT looking at 118 after all, then all of sudden the "low beam" problem that prevents the H3 from working magically went away and he was APPROVED to have an H3 installed at his home, just like his neighbor a few doors down has. Plenty more ODD posts of kookie reasons for denial that deny it has to do with the cost of multiple reflectors. Well, there was ONE post where a CSR did confirm to the poster that it was related to the cost of the additional reflector(s). A lot of people denied have felt very frustrated.
Years ago, Dish even got in troulbe with the FCC after some months later it suddenly REFUSED requests for the 2nd reflector to see other, smaller LiL channels subscribers were entitled to access as per Federal law, with some CSR's even citing the cost (oops! They weren't supposed to tell the customers that
). Clearly Charlie wanted to end the additional costs for as long as possible until, of course, finally, after complaints (and competitors notifying them, as well) the FCC officially orderd Dish to CEASE its refusal to accomodate subscriber's requesting a 2nd reflector to see their additional LIL's as per law. In this matter of multiple H3's, no such requirement by law, so we wait upon the DPH42 for households who want or even need more than one H3 and still watch Internationals at 118.
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Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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I've been having intermittent problems with Amazon Prime video programs loading using the H3 guide listing. I can get to the program I want to watch, but when I try to view it, it starts to load and then stalls. Eventually, a screen pops up saying "something went wrong, try again later". I've tried rebooting the hopper without success. Sometimes switching the HDMI input on my LG TV works, but not always. I don't have this problem on my phone or computer, so it is not a network or router issue.
I did a quick google search and found that this is a common problem associated with overloading or corruption of the data cache in the Amazon app and the solution is to clear the cache. Easy to do on a computer or phone, but I don't know how to do this on the H3. If anyone a solution or suggestion, I'd appreciate some help. Thanks.
I did a quick google search and found that this is a common problem associated with overloading or corruption of the data cache in the Amazon app and the solution is to clear the cache. Easy to do on a computer or phone, but I don't know how to do this on the H3. If anyone a solution or suggestion, I'd appreciate some help. Thanks.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Also posted this in the 3rd party remote thread.
My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse.
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My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse.
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