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SpaethCo said:

Again, the RSNs are unique in that it isn't just a channel you subscribe to -- you can have the channel but individual games aired in the RSNs have another layer of subscriptions.

The Sports Pack doesn't authorize viewing MLB, NBA, or NHL games on any of the RSNs, which are the sports leagues that add the bulk of the expense to the channels in the first place.

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Thats not true.
Directv can not Black out games.
Directv can put channels into a Higher package yes, Directv can also say what package you can and can't add the sports package too.

But they can't turn off and on games .
They are not Authorized to do such unless it falls under a blackout rules.

If you get the channel, and you are in market. You get the content.
RSN fee is only 4 years old.

They have you by the balls because they don't give you an opt out with Choice, Xtra, Ultimate, Or Premier .

Thats where the trouble comes in.
If you have these packages, there is absolutely Zero reason they should still charge you for both services.
They do it because they can, Not because its required for game access.
What if I want MLB EI, because I don't like my In market teams?
So I still have to pay $165 and $7.29 per month?
If it wasn't a Scam, they would let you opt out every package.

That's a Rip Off...

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Troch77 said:

Thats not true.
Directv can not Black out games.
Directv can put channels into a Higher package yes, Directv can also say what package you can and can't add the sports package too.

But they can't turn off and on games .
They are not Authorized to do such unless it falls under a blackout rules.

If you get the channel, and you are in market. You get the content.
RSN fee is only 4 years old.

They have you by the balls because they don't give you an opt out with Choice, Xtra, Ultimate, Or Premier .

Thats where the trouble comes in.
If you have these packages, there is absolutely Zero reason they should still charge you for both services.
They do it because they can, Not because its required for game access.
What if I want MLB EI, because I don't like my In market teams?
So I still have to pay $165 and $7.29 per month?
If it wasn't a Scam, they would let you opt out every package.

That's a Rip Off...

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I'll give you an example that proves you wrong. I'm in the SF bay area and my local RSNs are CSNBA and CSNCA, Giants and Warriors on CSNBA and A's and Kings on CSNCA. My basic programming package is Family and it does not include CSNBA/CSNCA. I have the MLB-EI(or will when I turn it back on in a few days) so I can watch Dodger games. I cannot watch either CSNBA or CSNCA with that MLB-EI package, those channels are not tunable for me because I don't have those channels in my basic programming package.

I do not pay any RSN fee because I do not have my local RSNs in my basic programming package. I pay only the $165 for MLB-EI and zero for any RSN fee.

keenan said:

I'll give you an example that proves you wrong. I'm in the SF bay area and my local RSNs are CSNBA and CSNCA, Giants and Warriors on CSNBA and A's and Kings on CSNCA. My basic programming package is Family and it does not include CSNBA/CSNCA. I have the MLB-EI(or will when I turn it back on in a few days) so I can watch Dodger games. I cannot watch either CSNBA or CSNCA with that MLB-EI package, those channels are not tunable for me because I don't have those channels in my basic programming package.

I do not pay any RSN fee because I do not have my local RSNs in my basic programming package. I pay only the $165 for MLB-EI and zero for any RSN fee.

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Thats proves nothing.
As I said thats Directv decision to have those channels in your Basepackage.
If you subscribed to the sports pack, you would have all the RSNs .

But I'm bored and tired of Paying Directv, so after 11 years, I cut ties.
Paid over $4000 for Commercial NFL Sunday ticket, Over $3000 on MLB EI and they Still had the balls to add that $7.29 fee.

My commercial establishment is now supported by Cable.
But cost way less,with CSN PHILLY, MSG,MSG+,YES ,SNY, MLB EI, NHL CI. More than enough Pro football and college football, And no Bogus First receiver fees, or RSN fees.
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Troch77 said:

Thats proves nothing.
As I said thats Directv decision to have those channels in your Basepackage.
If you subscribed to the sports pack, you would have all the RSNs .

But I'm bored and tired of Paying Directv, so after 11 years, I cut ties.
Paid over $4000 for Commercial NFL Sunday ticket, Over $3000 on MLB EI and they Still had the balls to add that $7.29 fee.

My commercial establishment is now supported by Cable.
But cost way less,with CSN PHILLY, MSG,MSG+,YES ,SNY, MLB EI, NHL CI. More than enough Pro football and college football, And no Bogus First receiver fees, or RSN fees.
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What cable company do you have that doesn't charge an RSN fee?

keenan said:

What cable company do you have that doesn't charge an RSN fee?

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I'm thinking all those fees are in there but not broken down seeing its a Commercial account hes talking about.

Jimbo said:

I'm thinking all those fees are in there but not broken down seeing its a Commercial account hes talking about.

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Well of Course they are built in.
If Directv built theirs in, They wouldn't look good to the competition.
So they Hide them until your about ready to sign the dotted line.[emoji6]

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Troch77 said:

Well of Course they are built in.
If Directv built theirs in, They wouldn't look good to the competition.
So they Hide them until your about ready to sign the dotted line.[emoji6]

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But you had said above that there were no RSN fees, which I believe has been the point you've been trying to make here and as it turns out you're paying them with your new service as well.

keenan said:

But you had said above that there were no RSN fees, which I believe has been the point you've been trying to make here and as it turns out you're paying them with your new service as well.

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The point that was being made, was Directv double dips.
So Directv Xtra package real price is $109.
Because there is absolutely no way I can get it for $94.99.



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Troch77 said:

The point that was being made, was Directv double dips.
So Directv Xtra package real price is $109.
Because there is absolutely no way I can get it for $94.99.



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Not really, the difference in your prices look like the SP being added, $13, you Can get your package without the SP for $ 94.99 if I'm reading your post right.
Your choosing to add the SP for the $13.

Not if you include the first receiver fee, and RSN fee.
I wasn't including the sports pack.


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This was so much easier when they just gave you the cost, you paid it if its what you wanted and was done with it.
Now that everything is broke down (so others can officially get thier share) its all arguments and complaints !

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Without joining the debate on the rationale of the RSF, I respectfully disagree with you on this.

I've had the same programming for 6 years (including the Sports Pack) with no RSF. I review most of my bills from all companies when received. I noticed the RSF of 7.29 being charged for this first time in Jan. After discussing this with neighbors and hearing some were charged 0.00, I began my analysis and 'adventure' with ATT in which they determined this was an error on their part.

If the RSF had not been broken out separately, I guess I may have become aware of an increase in my bill but it would have been even more difficult to ascertain the nature of the increase.

Troch77 said:

Not if you include the first receiver fee, and RSN fee.
I wasn't including the sports pack.


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But what does the addition of the first receiver fee have to do with anything? It sounds like you're not happy with them breaking out the RSN fee as a below the line charge. I do agree that below the line charges are sometimes straight up BS but in most cases like this, they do that so the advertised package price stays competitive to what other providers offer.

It looks like to me that DirecTV is applying around a 25%-50% profit onto these sports fees since a portion of the RSN cost has already been factored into the base programming package cost. If this is what you mean by double-dipping I can sort of see your point, but in the last 5-10 years the cost of these RSNs has continued to go up and up and the providers finally started to break out that cost and that's why you have a separate RSN fee along with paying a portion of the channel cost in your programming package price. The combination of what you've paid in the package price and the below the line RSN fee covers(more than covers really) the now current cost for that RSN.

They are doing the exact same thing with Broadcast TV fees, most cablecos are already doing it and if DirecTV hasn't started doing it yet you can take it to the bank that they will eventually. These fees are just like the RSN fees in that that help cover the rising costs of your local channels without adding that cost int the advertised pricing.

I should also add that these fees(RSN/Broadcast TV) are a bit of contract negotiation gamesmanship in that the providers want their subscribers to see what these networks are asking for their channels; a way to stay "hey, it's not us increasing the costs every year, it's these networks" sort of thing. It's a way of "shaming" these channels rising costs, especially RSNs.

I just got my DirecTV bill for the month yesterday and on it was an $11.66 credit for RSN fees with a message that says "We credited the regional sports network fees we mistakenly billed you. We're sorry for the error."