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Stanley Cup broadcast by NBC excellent picture

The Stanley Cup broadcast by NBC had an excellent picture. The broadcast was only 1080i but the picture from my Hopper3 to my 65" Sony was very impressive. Some people complain about Dish's picture quality but the picture was sharp with no artifacts.


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Yeah it did look good. I think the networks use different "better" equipment for prime time sporting events.
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Falcon195 said:
Yeah it did look good. I think the networks use different "better" equipment for prime time sporting events.
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Compared to what?

From the network to the affiliate to Dish/OTA to you isn't going to change much. The affiliates might have some stat muxing going on, so there might be some extra bandwidth allotted because of the fast pace, but I don't see that changing much.
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From the network to the affiliate to Dish/OTA to you isn't going to change much.
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It can change a lot. The typical downlink for an NBC feed is 20+ Mbps. My local NBC compresses that to 10.79 Mbps. That's nearly half the original quality. Then, dish takes that feed and further compresses it. Maybe the "average" viewer can't tell the difference, but I bet most of us could.
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comfortably_numb said:
It can change a lot. The typical downlink for an NBC feed is 20+ Mbps. My local NBC compresses that to 10.79 Mbps. That's nearly half the original quality. Then, dish takes that feed and further compresses it. Maybe the "average" viewer can't tell the difference, but I bet most of us could.
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The same is done here. But they're (the local) is compressing it to fit in their sub channels. If you add to the NBC, you have to degrade the subs. So yes, you might (using your numbers) see an increase to 11-12 Mbps, but I wouldn't expect much more than that (because you then bit starve the subs). Maybe Dish upped their bandwidth?

I always watch my locals via OTA (through my Dish receiver), and usually via DVR, so I can't compare it. I even cancelled my locals from Dish to save $$, so I can't compare between the Dish version and the OTA version.
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The same is done here. But they're (the local) is compressing it to fit in their sub channels. If you add to the NBC, you have to degrade the subs
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That's why I prefer my local CBS (KCTV) picture quality OTA; they are obsessive about high bandwidth and only allow one subchannel (Comet). For awhile, their sister station KSMO had no subchannels and broadcasted at 19 Mbps. A beautiful picture, indeed. Best in the metro.

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That's why I prefer my local CBS (KCTV) picture quality OTA; they are obsessive about high bandwidth and only allow one subchannel (Comet). For awhile, their sister station KSMO had no subchannels and broadcasted at 19 Mbps. A beautiful picture, indeed. Best in the metro.

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In Columbus, Ohio WCMH (NBC affiliate) has 3 subchannels, METV, ION TV, and Laff TV. I have not seen any difference between the Dish satellite NBC and the OTA NBC. I don't know how much WCMH degrades their NBC feed to make room for their three subchannels.

I agree that NBC must use high quality recording equipment because the Stanley Cup broadcast was excellent.


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In Columbus, Ohio WCMH (NBC affiliate) has 3 subchannels, METV, ION TV, and Laff TV. I have not seen any difference between the Dish satellite NBC and the OTA NBC. I don't know how much WCMH degrades their NBC feed to make room for their three subchannels.

I agree that NBC must use high quality recording equipment because the Stanley Cup broadcast was excellent.


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Just curious... are any of those in HD?

"Beauty is also in the eye of the beholder" also. I really notice the compression on our NBC when there's a lot of detail/small motion... picture the confetti raining down on the Super Bowl champions, or the sparks put out during certain acts for America's Got Talent. Our NBC has NBC at 1080i, MeTV at 720p, and Bounce at 480.
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dweber said:
In Columbus, Ohio WCMH (NBC affiliate) has 3 subchannels, METV, ION TV, and Laff TV. I have not seen any difference between the Dish satellite NBC and the OTA NBC. I don't know how much WCMH degrades their NBC feed to make room for their three subchannels.

I agree that NBC must use high quality recording equipment because the Stanley Cup broadcast was excellent.


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You're in Columbus Area? I'm coming there to work next week for 3 weeks. Why the HELL is that area Western Arc? Ugh!!
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You're in Columbus Area? I'm coming there to work next week for 3 weeks. Why the HELL is that area Western Arc? Ugh!!
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Just Columbus... I think Toledo, Dayton, Cleveland are EA right? And Cincinnati is on 77

Edit: Dayton and Toledo are WA.
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You're in Columbus Area? I'm coming there to work next week for 3 weeks. Why the HELL is that area Western Arc? Ugh!!
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I have been wondering that for years. Meanwhile, nearby Zanesville, which actually gets most of its local channels from Columbus, is already on Eastern Arc. So, since most of the Columbus channels are on Eastern Arc as part of the Zanesville local package, it would just be a matter of authorizing those same feeds for Columbus subscribers and adding the remaining Columbus channels to Eastern Arc.
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Just Columbus... I think Toledo, Dayton, Cleveland are EA right? And Cincinnati is on 77
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Toledo is Western Arc.
...and of course, Cleveland is on both arcs.
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Just curious... are any of those in HD?

"Beauty is also in the eye of the beholder" also. I really notice the compression on our NBC when there's a lot of detail/small motion... picture the confetti raining down on the Super Bowl champions, or the sparks put out during certain acts for America's Got Talent. Our NBC has NBC at 1080i, MeTV at 720p, and Bounce at 480.
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The NBC feed for WCMH 4.1 is 1080i. The 3 subchannels (METV 4.2, ION 4.3, and Laff 4.4) are all 480i. The subchannels are poor quality but the main NBC feed looks good.


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Toledo is Western Arc.
...and of course, Cleveland is on both arcs.
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Illinois is the same way. Most of the state is Eastern Peoria market is both and Champaign, the largest market is western... crazy
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$6.3 billion in crypto stolen by hackers

This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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The company later added it began recovering assets impacted by the breach after pledging to cover losses using its Secure Asset Fund for Users.
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They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.
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The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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New report states 29% of vehicles being traded in are under water

It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
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I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

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He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”
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After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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