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Last reply Dec 22, 2018 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Network Reports Second Quarter 2018 Financial Results

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Aug. 3, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- DISH Network Corp. (NASDAQ: DISH) today reported revenue totaling $3.46 billion for the quarter ending June 30, 2018, compared to $3.64 billion for the corresponding period in 2017. Subscriber-related revenue for the quarter totaled $3.42 billion, compared to $3.61 billion in subscriber-related revenue for the year-ago period.

full press release here at this link
DISH Network Reports Second Quarter 2018 Financial Results | Dish

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nelson61

Aug 5, 2018

I was browsing the SEC Edgar file on the Dish 2nd Quarter 10Q and stumbled onto this little gem.
Did a search of the document for any other references and there were none.

"On July 30, 2018, we did not provide notice to renew our lease for the capacity of Ciel II. Accordingly, our lease for the capacity of Ciel II will expire in January 2019 at the conclusion of the initial term. There can be no assurance that the expiration of our lease for capacity of Ciel II will not have a material adverse effect on our business, results of operations and financial condition or otherwise disrupt our business."

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nelson61

Dec 19, 2018

nelson61 said:
I was browsing the SEC Edgar file on the Dish 2nd Quarter 10Q and stumbled onto this little gem.
Did a search of the document for any other references and there were none.

"On July 30, 2018, we did not provide notice to renew our lease for the capacity of Ciel II. Accordingly, our lease for the capacity of Ciel II will expire in January 2019 at the conclusion of the initial term. There can be no assurance that the expiration of our lease for capacity of Ciel II will not have a material adverse effect on our business, results of operations and financial condition or otherwise disrupt our business."

The 3rd quarter report repeated the cautionary note.

The 129W license expires January 29 so one would expect to see a renewal filing any day now since the earth station regulations specify a 90-30 day application notice before renewal.
If they go to a short term Ciel2 lease, they would likely be looking at doing a deal with Directv for space at 110W and 119W.
A quick look counting up empty transponders and considering their new E18 100+ spot beam satellite sitting in storage indicates that they could probably eliminate the need for 129W.

Interestingly; Directv has emptied out their 110W West (KU) transponders and have the channels on 119W (KU) in test mode on one of their KA satellites.

If Directv subleases their 110W and 119W transponders to Dish, they would eliminate the need for building two new satellites - probably approaching 1 billion dollars in reduced capital expenditures plus lease income.
And, they have sufficient excess capacity on their KA satellites to make the move permanent.

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ncted

Dec 19, 2018

nelson61 said:
The 3rd quarter report repeated the cautionary note.

The 129W license expires January 29 so one would expect to see a renewal filing any day now since the earth station regulations specify a 90-30 day application notice before renewal.
If they go to a short term Ciel2 lease, they would likely be looking at doing a deal with Directv for space at 110W and 119W.
A quick look counting up empty transponders and considering their new E18 100+ spot beam satellite sitting in storage indicates that they could probably eliminate the need for 129W.

Interestingly; Directv has emptied out their 110W West (KU) transponders and have the channels on 119W (KU) in test mode on one of their KA satellites.

If Directv subleases their 110W and 119W transponders to Dish, they would eliminate the need for building two new satellites - probably approaching 1 billion dollars in reduced capital expenditures plus lease income.
And, they have sufficient excess capacity on their KA satellites to make the move permanent.

Sorry, I am not that familiar with the topic, so I was wondering if that took the addition of any UHD channels into account for both Dish and Directv?

Bruce

Dec 19, 2018

ncted said:
Sorry, I am not that familiar with the topic, so I was wondering if that took the addition of any UHD channels into account for both Dish and Directv?

There is not even a rumor of any broadcaster ( say FX or even CBS for example ) about to offer a 4K version of their channels, why even consider it then?

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ncted

Dec 19, 2018

theBruce said:
There is not even a rumor of any broadcaster ( say FX or even CBS for example ) about to offer a 4K version of their channels, why even consider it then?

Well, Dish and DirecTV did go to the trouble of designing technology which would allow for the delivery of UHD channels, so it stands to reason they might actually do so. That said, I'd rather see 1080p HDR channels.

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nelson61

Dec 22, 2018

Apparently Dish has resolved their issues with SES and extended their lease for Ciel 2 at 129W (2nd and 3rd quarter reports said they had not renewed or extended).

They filed with the FCC for renewal of license to transmit to customer dishes on Dec 21.

Notify going to License

The lease period should show up in their satellite report table in the next quarterly report.

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zippyfrog

Dec 22, 2018

nelson61 said:
Apparently Dish has resolved their issues with SES and extended their lease for Ciel 2 at 129W (2nd and 3rd quarter reports said they had not renewed or extended).
They filed with the FCC for renewal of license to transmit to customer dishes on Dec 21.
Notify going to License
The lease period should show up in their satellite report table in the next quarterly report.

So that means that they will not abandon 129? Or will the quarterly report tell us if it is short term or a long term extension?

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bluegras

Dec 22, 2018

ncted said:
Well, Dish and DirecTV did go to the trouble of designing technology which would allow for the delivery of UHD channels, so it stands to reason they might actually do so. That said, I'd rather see 1080p HDR channels.

Totally agree with you dish needs to work of adding uhd channels

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nelson61

Dec 22, 2018

zippyfrog said:
So that means that they will not abandon 129? Or will the quarterly report tell us if it is short term or a long term extension?

It is 10 years old so it has maybe 5-10 years remaining life.

It has been common on their other satellite leases for them to renew 1 year at a time after the expiration of the initial lease term. They were probably haggling over the $$$$ since satellite tv is on the decline and they need to manage forward looking expenses accordingly.

Their past practice has been to report the "number of lease years" in the quarterly reports and if they have option to renew at the end of each period .

It takes 3 years or so to build a new satellite.

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zippyfrog

Dec 22, 2018

nelson61 said:
It is 10 years old so it has maybe 5-10 years remaining life.

It has been common on their other satellite leases for them to renew 1 year at a time after the expiration of the initial lease term. They were probably haggling over the $$$$ since satellite tv is on the decline and they need to manage forward looking expenses accordingly.

Their past practice has been to report the "number of lease years" in the quarterly reports and if they have option to renew at the end of each period.

Does this pretty much rule out Dish from asking AT&T for the transponders they deserted at 110?

pattykay

Dec 22, 2018

zippyfrog said:
Does this pretty much rule out Dish from asking AT&T for the transponders they deserted at 110?

I don't think anything has been ruled out yet. As nelson61 pointed out earlier, Dish had to give advance notice that they were seeking a lease at 129 in order to get their license renewed:

nelson61 said:
The 129W license expires January 29 so one would expect to see a renewal filing any day now since the earth station regulations specify a 90-30 day application notice before renewal.

The question is: does Dish have to actually have the lease in place before applying for the license? If not, then it is still possible that no lease deal has actually been reached yet, and all options are still on the table.

Bruce

Dec 22, 2018

Name one UHD channel they could add.

bluegras said:
Totally agree with you dish needs to work of adding uhd channels

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Riverpilot

Dec 22, 2018

theBruce said:
Name one UHD channel they could add.

Sent from my LGL84VL using the SatelliteGuys app!

NASA TV.... which I would LOVE to have in 4k. I think it's really cool channel to watch. Heck, if Dish would add NASA in HD, would be a lot better than SD.

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Jim5506

Dec 22, 2018

We need 16K - more is always better.

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ChadT41

Dec 22, 2018

Jim5506 said:
We need 16K - more is always better.

64K. 45" screens...

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 46 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Midnight Train to Georgia - Gladys Knight & The Pips

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After Midnight - Eric Clapton

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Gotta Give A Little Love (Ten Years After) - Timmy Thomas

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Hear Me Calling - Ten Years After

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I Can Hear You Calling - Three Dog Night

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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Darrell S

Oct 17, 2026

I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

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long_time_Dish

Oct 17, 2026

I got Starz/Encore again for 50% off for 3 months yesterday.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

Darrell S said:
I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

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Darrell S

Oct 18, 2026

reubenray said:
How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

Darrell S said:
You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

Thanks, I found it. I have no offers.

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slow_poke_pete

47 minutes ago

Added the protection plan last week and went to cancel it. The website offered me 3 months free.

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nkapon

Last reply Today at 12:06 PM · posted in Canadian Satellite Services

looking for Starlink installation fro Burk's falls

Hello there

We are looking for Starlink installer that will be able to install a system in Burk's falls.

Please ping me if you are interested

Thanks,
Nimrod

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nelson61

Jul 17, 2025

nkapon said:
Hello there

We are looking for Starlink installer that will be able to install a system in Burk's falls.

Please ping me if you are interested

Thanks,
Nimrod

It is really really simple install (no special tools or instruments required and they guide you through using their starlink app and a simple set of instructions.

You can order direct from starlink online or from an authorized retailer.

Not at all like the special equipment needed for a satellite install.

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nkapon

Jul 18, 2025

nelson61 said:
It is really really simple install (no special tools or instruments required and they guide you through using their starlink app and a simple set of instructions.

You can order direct from starlink online or from an authorized retailer.

Not at all like the special equipment needed for a satellite install.

Thank you Nelson,
Yes, I fully agree. I can install it with my teeth, and both hands tied behind my back...but this installation is for a commercial user that will not do it themselves, and myself, Im overseas...

But it looks like that we managed to find someone who can drive there for the work.

Thank you

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Jazky99

Today at 12:06 PM

have you got it done

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:03 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

New report states 29% of vehicles being traded in are under water

It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

Nearly 3 In 10 New-Car Trade-Ins Are Underwater, Edmunds Finds | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:43 PM

I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans

harshness

Today at 10:05 AM

Juan said:
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans

I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.

dishstaller

Today at 12:03 PM

harshness said:
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

Believe it or not, 8 yrs...96 mon is starting to become common.

What I can't believe is the interest rates they are charging now. I've got a high credit score and when recently at a Ford dealership I inquired about what the rates were for new vehicles and he said 6.9%. Yikes.

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 11:53 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

$6.3 billion in crypto stolen by hackers

This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

Hackers steal $6.3 billion from Binance in biggest-ever cryptocurrency theft

The company later added it began recovering assets impacted by the breach after pledging to cover losses using its Secure Asset Fund for Users.

www.cnbc.com

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harshness

Today at 10:29 AM

dishstaller said:
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.

The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

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dishstaller

Today at 11:53 AM

harshness said:
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

That's kinda what I was seeing but all the news reports are suggesting that all investors will be made whole immediately.
The other thing they weren't clear about was the BTC that was "locked out" of the system. I guess that means that the stolen BTC is basically worthless now because I don't see how it could be replaced....but there is a LOT about the crypto world that leaves me scratching my head.

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 11:21 AM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

Oct 12, 2026

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Jimbo

Oct 13, 2026

Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Oct 15, 2026

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Oct 15, 2026

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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Howard Simmons

Oct 16, 2026

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Oct 16, 2026

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

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KAB

Oct 17, 2026

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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Jimbo

Oct 17, 2026

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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Jimbo

Oct 17, 2026

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

Teased Meeting ?

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Neutron

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Last reply Today at 10:02 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

RIP Patrick Stewart

Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor.

Patrick Stewart, ‘Star Trek’ Captain and ‘X-Men’ Superhero, Dies at 86

He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”

www.hollywoodreporter.com

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Yesterday at 5:48 PM

Yeah, this one is tough. RIP.

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Yesterday at 8:50 PM

R.I.P.

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Yesterday at 9:28 PM

Rest In Peace

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Yesterday at 10:56 PM

R.I.P., Jean-Luc.

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Ham Radio 2.0

Today at 9:22 AM · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

I Took Ham Radio, Meshtastic and Meshcore to Las Vegas

Time for another AWESOME video from Ham Radio 2.0!

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Direct YouTube Link - I Took Ham Radio, Meshtastic and Meshcore to Las Vegas
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This New Zeekr 7GT Is Bargain-Priced Taycan Alternative You've Never Heard Of!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 6:39 AM · posted in TV Shows

The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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klang

Oct 21, 2025

Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.

meStevo

Oct 15, 2026

One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Yesterday at 5:57 PM

Renewed for season 5.

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Yesterday at 6:02 PM

Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!

KAB

Today at 6:39 AM

klang said:
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!

Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.

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