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Every couple years I talk to Dish to see if we can switch from Directv. Currently, home is Genie and a couple receivers. RV is Winegard 1518, HR24 and AM-21 (the thing that takes OTA channels and gets 'em into the DVR. Its not HD, but it works, EXCEPT…
Directv, as far as I know, is still making noise about getting rid of SD and has stopped supporting the AM-21, so since we just went through the annual *&^%$# where they increase the monthly rate I figured it might be a reasonable time to talk to Dish. Again.
And much like Directv, I get different answers depending on who I talk to. And frequently the phone answerers say things like "I THINK that'll work" or "that MAY be possible", which does NOT fill me with confidence. SO, here's what I'd LIKE to do:
Home: 3 tvs, Hopper 3 and a couple joeys (wired? Wireless?).
RV is all over the place depending on who I talk to.
I have 1 TV. I would LIKE to RECORD at LEAST 4 or more channels (5 like the Genie does, or more, would be good) of ANY COMBINATION of satellite, local and OTA channels. And watch one channel presuming they're not all busy recording...
The Hopper at home HAS to remain at home and functional. It CANNOT go in the RV.
I want to have one account. If I have to have a separate account for the RV, Directv is still FAR cheaper than Dish. I suspect, like Directv, Dish is going to refuse to allow DNS channels, nor will they allow me to change the service address when on the road WITHOUT totally screwing up the home DVR. So I need to get OTA channels to the recorder.
The Winegard 1518 SAYS it can do Dish in HD. There are 2 outputs from the dome. I've been told it actually DOESN'T work for any of the current Dish equipment to enable me to record two concurrent HD satellite channels. I'd have to put a $1600 dish on the roof to get the same automatic capability I currently have, and would lose the flexibility of being able to move the satellite dish to a different location when the rooftop one is blocked. Which given where we frequently stay, is quite often.
So, I'm looking for a reasonable method of getting Dish on the road, and recording some combination of satellite channels, DNS service if I can get it, and if NOT, OTA channels when we have them, and/or local channels when we have them. In any combination up to the number of concurrent programs that can be recorded. So, 1 or more OTA channels AND 1 or more satellite channels, while watching an OTA or satellite channel – up to the maximum number of channels that can be handled.
I've gotten a variety of contradictory information…
So, exactly what CAN I do with a Wally and the 1518 in the RV? How many inputs will it accept, and how many channels will it record? And how does it handle OTA channels?
I've been told the VIP722K can record 2 channels (with hard drive), but it WON'T work with the 1518 and would need a $1600 dish. To record 4 concurrent channels I'd need TWO VIP722 units, each with a hard drive, and two of whatever it is that gets OTA channels into the thing. And some way to manage them and get the recorded shows from the two DVRs to the TV.
I was told by one of the "mobile experts" that in order to get the OTA channels into the DVR (not sure whether that meant a Wally or a 722) I'd need an OTA tuner, BUT that with this device any/ALL the OTA channels would be concurrently available to the <whatever dvr ends up in the RV>. I was then told by a DIFFERENT expert that the "ota tuner" would only make ONE channel available.
And was told by the "mobile expert" that a Wally is JUST a one-channel receiver. With an attached hard drive, it can record at MOST, one channel. And that there is NO way with Dish to have a combination of multiple satellite channels and/or multiple OTA channels recorded using one or more Wallys.
I've been told by Dish that I CANNOT have two Hoppers on the account. And again, if I were able to put a Hopper in the RV, it would require the $1600 dish. Or a cheaper one that's back to manually trying to find the satellites like we did 10 years ago. In other forums I keep getting responses like "I have 3 Hoppers on my house account and take one with me". But I never get a response to "HOW DID YOU GET THREE HOPPERS ON YOUR ONE ACCOUNT?"
SO, given all that, and my inability to determine which is real and which is utter BS, how do I get a simple setup at home that works and a simple setup in the RV that'll handle recording a reasonable number of channels of whatever is available (satellite, OTA, local, possibly DNS) - at LEAST as much as I'm currently able to do with the existing Directv setup, and preferably as good as I'm able to do with my current, very basic, home setup?
Directv, as far as I know, is still making noise about getting rid of SD and has stopped supporting the AM-21, so since we just went through the annual *&^%$# where they increase the monthly rate I figured it might be a reasonable time to talk to Dish. Again.
And much like Directv, I get different answers depending on who I talk to. And frequently the phone answerers say things like "I THINK that'll work" or "that MAY be possible", which does NOT fill me with confidence. SO, here's what I'd LIKE to do:
Home: 3 tvs, Hopper 3 and a couple joeys (wired? Wireless?).
RV is all over the place depending on who I talk to.
I have 1 TV. I would LIKE to RECORD at LEAST 4 or more channels (5 like the Genie does, or more, would be good) of ANY COMBINATION of satellite, local and OTA channels. And watch one channel presuming they're not all busy recording...
The Hopper at home HAS to remain at home and functional. It CANNOT go in the RV.
I want to have one account. If I have to have a separate account for the RV, Directv is still FAR cheaper than Dish. I suspect, like Directv, Dish is going to refuse to allow DNS channels, nor will they allow me to change the service address when on the road WITHOUT totally screwing up the home DVR. So I need to get OTA channels to the recorder.
The Winegard 1518 SAYS it can do Dish in HD. There are 2 outputs from the dome. I've been told it actually DOESN'T work for any of the current Dish equipment to enable me to record two concurrent HD satellite channels. I'd have to put a $1600 dish on the roof to get the same automatic capability I currently have, and would lose the flexibility of being able to move the satellite dish to a different location when the rooftop one is blocked. Which given where we frequently stay, is quite often.
So, I'm looking for a reasonable method of getting Dish on the road, and recording some combination of satellite channels, DNS service if I can get it, and if NOT, OTA channels when we have them, and/or local channels when we have them. In any combination up to the number of concurrent programs that can be recorded. So, 1 or more OTA channels AND 1 or more satellite channels, while watching an OTA or satellite channel – up to the maximum number of channels that can be handled.
I've gotten a variety of contradictory information…
So, exactly what CAN I do with a Wally and the 1518 in the RV? How many inputs will it accept, and how many channels will it record? And how does it handle OTA channels?
I've been told the VIP722K can record 2 channels (with hard drive), but it WON'T work with the 1518 and would need a $1600 dish. To record 4 concurrent channels I'd need TWO VIP722 units, each with a hard drive, and two of whatever it is that gets OTA channels into the thing. And some way to manage them and get the recorded shows from the two DVRs to the TV.
I was told by one of the "mobile experts" that in order to get the OTA channels into the DVR (not sure whether that meant a Wally or a 722) I'd need an OTA tuner, BUT that with this device any/ALL the OTA channels would be concurrently available to the <whatever dvr ends up in the RV>. I was then told by a DIFFERENT expert that the "ota tuner" would only make ONE channel available.
And was told by the "mobile expert" that a Wally is JUST a one-channel receiver. With an attached hard drive, it can record at MOST, one channel. And that there is NO way with Dish to have a combination of multiple satellite channels and/or multiple OTA channels recorded using one or more Wallys.
I've been told by Dish that I CANNOT have two Hoppers on the account. And again, if I were able to put a Hopper in the RV, it would require the $1600 dish. Or a cheaper one that's back to manually trying to find the satellites like we did 10 years ago. In other forums I keep getting responses like "I have 3 Hoppers on my house account and take one with me". But I never get a response to "HOW DID YOU GET THREE HOPPERS ON YOUR ONE ACCOUNT?"
SO, given all that, and my inability to determine which is real and which is utter BS, how do I get a simple setup at home that works and a simple setup in the RV that'll handle recording a reasonable number of channels of whatever is available (satellite, OTA, local, possibly DNS) - at LEAST as much as I'm currently able to do with the existing Directv setup, and preferably as good as I'm able to do with my current, very basic, home setup?
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Starting a thread klang !
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. 
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Patrick Stewart, ‘Star Trek’ Captain and ‘X-Men’ Superhero, Dies at 86
He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Good...simple humor. Enjoy
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
Actually it looks like there are a lot of features new or updated, although most are on a gradual rollout schedule.
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KB5127936 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview build 26200.9818 (25H2) and 26300.9818 (26H2) - Oct. 28
Microsoft Support: This cumulative update for Windows 11, versions 26H2 and 25H2 (KB5127936), includes production-quality improvements. Announcements and messages This section provides key notifications related to this release, including announcements, change logs, and end-of-support notices...
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
www.tvtechnology.com
Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York
Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. 
Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
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Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
Nearly 3 In 10 New-Car Trade-Ins Are Underwater, Edmunds Finds<!-- --> | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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