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hi,
I just got my complete satellite equip. set up and after a bunch of tries and moves to diff locations around the property I cant get my signal quality up past 42%(signal strength is at 92%).Now my reciever box says its sees around 35 transponders and I can get around 87 paid channels but not one free channel or a single radio channel. Im located in northeast PA so I was trying to align to galaxy 18 & 19 along with amc 21, once again i get a list of 30 some transponders it sees off those 3 satellites but not one free channel? Im really new to satellite equipment so any help would be greatly appreciated, it feels like im close to the finish but not sure what to do...lol
My equip: Slim line dtv dish, a DV3 S2 reciever box, Dual Output KU Band LNB High Gain Universal Ku Band Twin Output Hd LNB Lnbf Two Output LNB, and top of the line satellite cable.(everything was just bought around X-mas this year)
Thanks for your time,
Shawn
I just got my complete satellite equip. set up and after a bunch of tries and moves to diff locations around the property I cant get my signal quality up past 42%(signal strength is at 92%).Now my reciever box says its sees around 35 transponders and I can get around 87 paid channels but not one free channel or a single radio channel. Im located in northeast PA so I was trying to align to galaxy 18 & 19 along with amc 21, once again i get a list of 30 some transponders it sees off those 3 satellites but not one free channel? Im really new to satellite equipment so any help would be greatly appreciated, it feels like im close to the finish but not sure what to do...lol
My equip: Slim line dtv dish, a DV3 S2 reciever box, Dual Output KU Band LNB High Gain Universal Ku Band Twin Output Hd LNB Lnbf Two Output LNB, and top of the line satellite cable.(everything was just bought around X-mas this year)
Thanks for your time,
Shawn
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Alas, satsig is not accurate; I tested that.
Also Parabola Calculator 2.0 for offset dishes (using Paul Wade's method) is not accurate, as it pre-assumes bottom at vertex. A slight difference there causes abberations for the focal point. (For PF dishes I believe this calculator is OK, though!)
Parabola6 is highly accurate for focal point calculations of paraboloid dishes, though. And gives a nice drawing of the results.
However I find the depth measurement of that calculator rather difficult; I find the measuring procedure that I wrote above simpler, and by using the top/bottom spots again I think you get more accuracy in the input measures.
So I made a calculator that can use three different types of input values:
- center point input values, such as mine and Parabola6's;
- deepest point input values, such as Parabola Calculator 2.0 (but without the incorrectness of the unnecessary preassumption of bottom at vertex). I have noticed it is very hard to find the exact deepest point, though;
- LNBfeedhorn point input values, when you know the feedhorn position is accurate (simple method, to find the effective focal distance of offset dishes, for e.g. multifeedcalculations).
If a dish is wider than high, but it is still paraboloid in form (to reduce impact from neighbouring satellites), with the water method you can still find the "effective width", and do the calculations.
If a dish is wider than high, and it is a multifeed dish, it is usually parabolic in the vertical sense, and circular in the horizontal sense. That is also the case with toroidal dishes.
I have a calculation method for those dishes in my mind, needing also the water method. And it would not be a proper 'calculation', but a step by step algoritm (by repeated steps, algoritm in the original sense, I believe?), to come very very near the true value.
But that calculation is still on my 'to do' list, for somewhere in the future, and the method is still untested...
Example of calculation of my triax-115 with the 'dish-center' method is added.
Also the other calculation methods, and needed inputs, are shown.
greetz,
A33
Also Parabola Calculator 2.0 for offset dishes (using Paul Wade's method) is not accurate, as it pre-assumes bottom at vertex. A slight difference there causes abberations for the focal point. (For PF dishes I believe this calculator is OK, though!)
Parabola6 is highly accurate for focal point calculations of paraboloid dishes, though. And gives a nice drawing of the results.
However I find the depth measurement of that calculator rather difficult; I find the measuring procedure that I wrote above simpler, and by using the top/bottom spots again I think you get more accuracy in the input measures.
So I made a calculator that can use three different types of input values:
- center point input values, such as mine and Parabola6's;
- deepest point input values, such as Parabola Calculator 2.0 (but without the incorrectness of the unnecessary preassumption of bottom at vertex). I have noticed it is very hard to find the exact deepest point, though;
- LNBfeedhorn point input values, when you know the feedhorn position is accurate (simple method, to find the effective focal distance of offset dishes, for e.g. multifeedcalculations).
If a dish is wider than high, but it is still paraboloid in form (to reduce impact from neighbouring satellites), with the water method you can still find the "effective width", and do the calculations.
If a dish is wider than high, and it is a multifeed dish, it is usually parabolic in the vertical sense, and circular in the horizontal sense. That is also the case with toroidal dishes.
I have a calculation method for those dishes in my mind, needing also the water method. And it would not be a proper 'calculation', but a step by step algoritm (by repeated steps, algoritm in the original sense, I believe?), to come very very near the true value.
But that calculation is still on my 'to do' list, for somewhere in the future, and the method is still untested...
Example of calculation of my triax-115 with the 'dish-center' method is added.
Also the other calculation methods, and needed inputs, are shown.
greetz,
A33
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very interesting, i'll have to take a closer look at those methods. By "to or bottom" to "Center of dish", am I understanding correctly that you mean the distance in straight line from the top to the point that is equidistant to top/bottom edges and equidistant to left/right edges but also right on the surface of the dish (hence the slightly higher value than half the top-to-bottom value)? If that is correct, isn't that more sensitive to slight measurement errors than measuring the depth against a straight edge going across the dish? (I have not done the math, just wondering though)Alas, satsig is not accurate; I tested that.
Also Parabola Calculator 2.0 for offset dishes (using Paul Wade's method) is not accurate, as it pre-assumes bottom at vertex. A slight difference there causes abberations for the focal point. (For PF dishes I believe this calculator is OK, though!)
Parabola6 is highly accurate for focal point calculations of paraboloid dishes, though. And gives a nice drawing of the results.
However I find the depth measurement of that calculator rather difficult; I find the measuring procedure that I wrote above simpler, and by using the top/bottom spots again I think you get more accuracy in the input measures.
So I made a calculator that can use three different types of input values:
- center point input values, such as mine and Parabola6's;
- deepest point input values, such as Parabola Calculator 2.0 (but without the incorrectness of the unnecessary preassumption of bottom at vertex). I have noticed it is very hard to find the exact deepest point, though;
- LNBfeedhorn point input values, when you know the feedhorn position is accurate (simple method, to find the effective focal distance of offset dishes, for e.g. multifeedcalculations).
If a dish is wider than high, but it is still paraboloid in form (to reduce impact from neighbouring satellites), with the water method you can still find the "effective width", and do the calculations.
If a dish is wider than high, and it is a multifeed dish, it is usually parabolic in the vertical sense, and circular in the horizontal sense. That is also the case with toroidal dishes.
I have a calculation method for those dishes in my mind, needing also the water method. And it would not be a proper 'calculation', but a step by step algoritm (by repeated steps, algoritm in the original sense, I believe?), to come very very near the true value.
But that calculation is still on my 'to do' list, for somewhere in the future, and the method is still untested...
Example of calculation of my triax-115 with the 'dish-center' method is added.
Also the other calculation methods, and needed inputs, are shown.
View attachment 137571
greetz,
A33
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Just remembered:
I made a drawing with indication of the points, used in the calculator, couple of months ago.
See here:
greetz,
A33
I made a drawing with indication of the points, used in the calculator, couple of months ago.
See here:
greetz,
A33
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I've just tested that, and you were totally right!
Adding 0.1 cm (so 1 millimeter) to the distance of top to center, gives dish depth of 9.15 cm (instead of 8.5), and moves the focal point 4.5 cm towards the vertex!
So I was totally wrong there!
I guess I should delete my method D from the calculator.
Measuring depth itself is the far better way there!
I also tried adding a 1 mm error in method A (in the triangle: top - deepest point - bottom); the effect there seems much less bad; though the error affects both the offset angle and the focal distance in that calculation method.
But maybe, when there is no sound and easy way of finding the exact deepest point of an offset dish, method A, B and C should disappear anyway. Nice mathematical exercition, but very 'unpractical' in reality.
So, I'm curious if methods F and G can remain?
I started off with these methods, trying whether the effective focal distance (distance F-G, needed for multifeed-calculations) could be calculated from the top and bottom string length (together with dish hight). A bit to my surprise, these three input data were sufficient to calculate ALL parabolic dish specs for an (offset) dish.
I'll have to compare now for these two methods, which one is most sensitive to measuring errors; or that both (F and G) can remain.
For the calculation method I have in my mind for a multifeed dish: That can be done on the basis of method E.
So no problem there, that will remain on my to-do list.
greetz,
A33
I've just tested that, and you were totally right!
Adding 0.1 cm (so 1 millimeter) to the distance of top to center, gives dish depth of 9.15 cm (instead of 8.5), and moves the focal point 4.5 cm towards the vertex!
So I was totally wrong there!
I guess I should delete my method D from the calculator.
Measuring depth itself is the far better way there!
I also tried adding a 1 mm error in method A (in the triangle: top - deepest point - bottom); the effect there seems much less bad; though the error affects both the offset angle and the focal distance in that calculation method.
But maybe, when there is no sound and easy way of finding the exact deepest point of an offset dish, method A, B and C should disappear anyway. Nice mathematical exercition, but very 'unpractical' in reality.
So, I'm curious if methods F and G can remain?
I started off with these methods, trying whether the effective focal distance (distance F-G, needed for multifeed-calculations) could be calculated from the top and bottom string length (together with dish hight). A bit to my surprise, these three input data were sufficient to calculate ALL parabolic dish specs for an (offset) dish.
I'll have to compare now for these two methods, which one is most sensitive to measuring errors; or that both (F and G) can remain.
For the calculation method I have in my mind for a multifeed dish: That can be done on the basis of method E.
So no problem there, that will remain on my to-do list.
greetz,
A33
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.
Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... 
and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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