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brad1138

Last reply Mar 23, 2020 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DTV calling it quits (more or less)

As a Dish fan and also authorized retailer for the last 20 years, it pleases me to see we made the right choice (not that we didn't know that already). We sold both for nearly 20 years, but always sold 95+% Dish Network. It was better equipment at a lower price, sold itself. Dropped DTV a few years back when they started enforcing their rule that you couldn't sell both.

I get "TV" in general is changing drastically, and who knows where Dish will be in 5 or 10 years, but they are here now, and strong. There is already a trend of people going back to more traditional "TV" services, they are tired of having to subscribe to 10 different streaming services to get all they want...

DirecTV's days are numbered

AT&T management, which has seen massive subscriber losses in 5 years, now admits DirecTV will only be sold in rural areas, putting its future in doubt

www.usatoday.com

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Bruce

Mar 8, 2020

HipKat said:
That makes absolutely no sense. DTV lost millions in the last year. Dish lost 100K in the last Quarter but gained 94K in the previous quarter. DTV is a failing business that has zero diversification. Dish has branched out into so many other areas and is constantly updating it's business model and future growth.

Umm, AT&T has a lot more then just DirecTV
AT&T-
DirecTV
AT&T Now/TV/Watch
Warner Bros. Film and Television Productions
Cable Channels-TBS
TNT
CNN
Headline News
truTV
Cartoon Network
HBO
Cinemax
The CW (50%)
Broadband
Cell Phone Service
5G
DC Entertainment
and a lot of legacy content like Warner Bros. Films, Hanna-Barbera, older TV shows like Friends, Big Bang and a lot more that would take up a page here.

Dish
Dish Network/Echostar
Sling
Boost Mobile
Maybe some form of 5G

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HipKat

Mar 8, 2020

theBruce said:
Umm, AT&T has a lot more then just DirecTV
AT&T-
DirecTV
AT&T Now/TV/Watch
Warner Bros. Film and Television Productions
Cable Channels-TBS
TNT
CNN
Headline News
truTV
Cartoon Network
HBO
Cinemax
The CW (50%)
Broadband
Cell Phone Service
5G
DC Entertainment
and a lot of legacy content like Hanna-Barbera for example

Dish
Dish Network/Echostar
Sling
Boost Mobile
Maybe some form of 5G

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Umm, I said DTV, not AT&T

As for DIsh,
Dish Video
Dish still has interests and installs Hughesnet and Viasat
The 5G Spectrum still being developed
3g NB-IoT networking
DishWireless via the Sprint/T-Mobile merger
Samsung Appliance Division
Amazon
Ring
Google Nest
Polk Audio
Klipsch Audio
Sonos Audio
Best Buy Appliance
Carrier Cooling
Asurion Affiliations
Leviton and KB Products
PC Richard and Son
Dish Ontech
Smart home connections - lights, plugs, etc
Audioquest Products
Linksys and Google Mesh Networking
Google Fiber

Should I keep going?? There's a lot more I can add

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Bruce

Mar 8, 2020

HipKat said:
Umm, I said DTV, not AT&T

As for DIsh,
Dish Video
Dish still has interests and installs Hughesnet and Viasat
The 5G Spectrum still being developed
3g NB-IoT networking
DishWireless via the Sprint/T-Mobile merger
Samsung Appliance Division
Amazon
Ring
Google Nest
Polk Audio
Klipsch Audio
Sonos Audio
Best Buy Appliance
Carrier Cooling
Asurion Affiliations
Leviton and KB Products
PC Richard and Son
Dish Ontech
Smart home connections - lights, plugs, etc
Audioquest Products
Linksys and Google Mesh Networking
Google Fiber

Should I keep going?? There's a lot more I can add

Except DirecTV is owned by AT&T, Dish owns Sling for example.

And the vast majority for Dish you named are companies that Dish works with, not owned by.

AT&T works with a lot of companies also, way too many to name.

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HipKat

Mar 8, 2020

theBruce said:
Except DirecTV is owned by AT&T, Dish owns Sling for example.

And the vast majority for Dish you named are companies that Dish works with, not owned by.

AT&T works with a lot of companies also, way too many to name.

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No, those are Dish affiliations.
DirecTV is an affiliation of AT&T that happens to be on the market, has not had a tech. upgrade on their equipment in years, is losing millions of subscribers - and dollars and is now only being offered to rural customers. They'll be a memory in a few years and Dish will still be a fortune 50 company.

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Bruce

Mar 8, 2020

HipKat said:
No, those are Dish affiliations.
DirecTV is an affiliation of AT&T that happens to be on the market, has not had a tech. upgrade on their equipment in years, is losing millions of subscribers - and dollars and is now only being offered to rural customers. They'll be a memory in a few years and Dish will still be a fortune 50 company.

And do you not know what the definition of affiliation is, here-https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/affiliation

DirecTV is owned by AT&T, Dish has a affiliation with Google.

and Dish has lost millions also-

14 million Sat. subscribers in 2014
9.40 million Sat. subscribers end of 2019

And as far as a tech upgrade, when was the last time Dish launched a new Satellite, I believe it was 8 years ago, do they have any on order, not that I can find, neither company are introducing new boxes for their Sat. Services.

Both DirecTV and Dish( and the rest of Traditional Providers) are dying a slow death, things that will hasten it are providing faster Broadband to the rural population, if StarLink works out it will be lights out for Satellite Provided Television.

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HipKat

Mar 8, 2020

theBruce said:
And do you not know what the definition of affiliation is, here-https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/affiliation

DirecTV is owned by AT&T, Dish has a affiliation with Google.

and Dish has lost millions also-

14 million Sat. subscribers in 2014
9.40 million Sat. subscribers end of 2019

And as far as a tech upgrade, when was the last time Dish launched a new Satellite, I believe it was 8 years ago, do they have any on order, not that I can find, neither company are introducing new boxes for their Sat. Services.

Both DirecTV and Dish( and the rest of Traditional Providers) are dying a slow death, things that will hasten it are providing faster Broadband to the rural population, if StarLink works out it will be lights out for Satellite Provided Television.

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Satellite technology is dead. Dish is moving towards new technology. MVDDS. Direct has nothing, but a for sale sign on it

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Ronnie-

Mar 8, 2020

HipKat said:
Satellite technology is dead. Dish is moving towards new technology. MVDDS. Direct has nothing, but a for sale sign on it

Sat tech is dying for sure, but I'm not sure how you think dish is moving forward and att is not.

Both offer sat. Both offer online live tv options (att has more options than dish). Both offer or will offer cell options. Att already has theirs. Dish is just starting.
Personally I don't have a dog in this fight anymore. I got into streaming years ago, and while I have tried both companies offerings, I found them both lacking.

I just see them both dying, and they have been for a few years imo.

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HipKat

Mar 9, 2020

msmith198025 said:
Sat tech is dying for sure, but I'm not sure how you think dish is moving forward and att is not.

Both offer sat. Both offer online live tv options (att has more options than dish). Both offer or will offer cell options. Att already has theirs. Dish is just starting.
Personally I don't have a dog in this fight anymore. I got into streaming years ago, and while I have tried both companies offerings, I found them both lacking.

I just see them both dying, and they have been for a few years imo.

Multi-Video Data Delivery System - that's how Dish is moving forward and DTV is not

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Juan

Mar 9, 2020

HipKat said:
Multi-Video Data Delivery System - that's how Dish is moving forward and DTV is not

Ummm what do you think 5g and the switch to streaming is?

DishSubLA

Mar 17, 2020

msmith198025 said:
Sat tech is dying for sure, but I'm not sure how you think dish is moving forward and att is not.

Both offer sat. Both offer online live tv options (att has more options than dish). Both offer or will offer cell options. Att already has theirs. Dish is just starting.
Personally I don't have a dog in this fight anymore. I got into streaming years ago, and while I have tried both companies offerings, I found them both lacking.

I just see them both dying, and they have been for a few years imo.

As for Dish, the MVDDS--which is most likely part of the Dish 5G plan, would only see both companies offering new WAYS of offering either similar services, or, in the case of Dish, new services such as ISP, which is part of the Dish 5G MVDDS plan. Also, 5G is also about automation and remote tasks and industry, but made only possble with the extremely low latency of 5G. Smart Phones just aren't part of the big 5G plan, but Alphabet has been very lovey dovey with Dish lately, most likely because of the 5G spectrum, which could see Google leasing or in some way using in partnership with Dish some of Dish's 5G spectrum, perhaps, Waymo driverless rideshare service? Alphabet/Google money can speed deployment and handle the high cost very easily, provided tower companies can ramp up construction properly. I see the FCC EXTENDING the 2023 deadline due to tower company backlog.

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DishSubLA

Mar 17, 2020

Juan said:
Ummm what do you think 5g and the switch to streaming is?

Good Grief! Santa Maria! Sigh!

eddie willers

Mar 17, 2020

DishSubLA said:
I see the FCC EXTENDING the 2023 deadline due to tower company backlog.

Agreed.

mdram

Mar 17, 2020

DishSubLA said:
I see the FCC EXTENDING the 2023 deadline due to tower company backlog.

it was already pushed from 2020 to 2023
let them lost the money if they cant do it

DishSubLA

Mar 23, 2020

mdram said:
it was already pushed from 2020 to 2023
let them lost the money if they cant do it

And there is still tower company backlog. I think the deaths in tower construction really scared the industry and the government, although some predicted deaths. Three additional years is just not going to be enough time with how slowly the tower companies can ramp up. Such a ramp up take TIME, mostly to proper training if they are to hire more people to build the towers.

eddie willers

Mar 23, 2020

I imagine all deadlines are subject to change due to recent events.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261021.xlsx 1,876 KB

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jamieh1

Wednesday at 8:24 PM

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Wednesday at 9:33 PM

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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KyL416

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

The rest are still pointing to the TV Promise slate

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KyL416

Today at 3:20 PM

660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available

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coolman302003

Today at 4:16 PM

KyL416 said:
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

KyL416 said:
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available

One thing these five teams have in common is that they all signed exclusive local streaming rights deals with DAZN, replacing their traditional regional sports networks.

I know the Spurs will have 22 games available OTA on KMYS-TV CW35 in the San Antonio market, but they'll still be available on DAZN as well. The CW35 broadcasts are an additional option, not an exclusive arrangement.

With channel 680 now available, we should be able to get all the Spurs home feeds on NBALP again! (as well as the other teams above of course)

KyL416

Today at 5:57 PM

KyL416 said:
The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida

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KyL416

18 minutes ago

WPLG Miami is testing on the stream server again

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 25 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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Juan

Wednesday at 1:38 PM

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

Wednesday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

Juan

Wednesday at 3:07 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much

dishstaller

Wednesday at 3:13 PM

Juan said:
.a bag...not much

Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

Juan

Yesterday at 7:13 AM

dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

NYDutch

Yesterday at 7:44 AM

Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.

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harshness

Yesterday at 9:21 AM

NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.

Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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harshness

Today at 4:42 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.

You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Jimbo

Today at 5:08 PM

harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.

Jimbo

Today at 5:14 PM

A pound of Coffee, does that include the package it's in ?

No, a pound of coffee refers strictly to the net weight of the coffee itself (16 ounces), not including the weight of the bag or packaging. [1, 2]

Net Weight: Food and coffee sold by weight are required by law to list the net weight on the label, which measures only the contents inside the package. [1, 2]
- Packaging Weight: The foil bag, valve, and label add extra weight to the total item when you hold it, meaning the gross weight on a scale will be slightly more than 16 ounces.
- Watch Out for Bag Sizes: Always check the label carefully, as many specialty roasters now sell 12-ounce (three-quarter pound) bags while keeping the price or visual impression similar to a full pound. [1, 2, 3]

meStevo

Today at 5:40 PM

The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.

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harshness

25 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.

Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 6:08 PM · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Memories

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reubenray

Oct 14, 2026

I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.

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FTA4PA

Oct 14, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
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Only 28 years ago and look how different things are now.

dfergie

Oct 14, 2026

I forgot about the tv antenna rotator to change polarity…

telstar_1

Oct 14, 2026

reubenray said:
I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.

You mean you were pirating the VCII and entering "Wizard numbers" every month after key change? GI finally resorted to changing out the keys twice as often, then even more often, down to just hours, making it mostly untenable?

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iBoston

Today at 5:55 PM

When i was a kid, i used to salivate envisioning me having a Cband dish. It wasn't until about 1995, I installed my first Cband dish, and i remember it took me about 2 weeks to get that dish aligned properly.. This was before internet, and i had to call and talk with people on the phone about advice on how to properly tune the dish. I can't remember the receiver, but it had a UHF remote. I had the satellite receiver in the living room, but i ported it to two TV's, one in the living room and one in the bedroom. It was so nice being able to control the receiver with the remote in the bedroom about 40 feet from the living room. I remember watching Rosanne feeds where it would air the entire week in succession. Nice nostalgia.

navychop

Today at 6:08 PM

iBoston said:
I remember watching Rosanne feeds

I'd wipe THAT memory ASAP!

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 5:58 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

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HIFI

Today at 12:44 AM

anybody remember this disaster ?

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SuperDish_Fan23

Today at 4:24 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 5:51 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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telstar_1

Today at 5:58 PM

Slicker guides never did much for me

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:58 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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navychop

Oct 3, 2026

Years down the road

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renjy651

Oct 4, 2026

navychop said:
Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

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Mister B

Oct 5, 2026

renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota

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zippyfrog

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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telstar_1

Oct 5, 2026

Is any SD-only receiver still operating?

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brad1138

Oct 5, 2026

telstar_1 said:
Is any SD-only receiver still operating?

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navychop

Oct 5, 2026

zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!

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Mister B

Oct 6, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota

Yes, I considered D* as I knew some of my favorite channels had better PQ but too many require moving up to the "Choice" package and incurring the Regional Sports Fee.
I do not have METV or any of the Weigel owned channels here in El Paso.

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Henry Sanchez

Today at 5:21 PM

What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?

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telstar_1

Today at 5:58 PM

navychop said:
CONTRACTS!

At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 4:52 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Bobby

Today at 11:48 AM

This Should Go On Forever - Rod Bernard

long_time_Dish

Today at 4:23 PM

Go On Cry - Heart

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Today at 4:25 PM

Let Her Cry - Hootie & the Blowfish

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Today at 4:33 PM

Let Her In - Vince Gill

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Today at 4:52 PM

Devil in Her Heart - The Beatles

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 4:48 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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Bobby

Oct 13, 2026

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

Oct 15, 2026

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

Oct 15, 2026

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

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Foxbat

Today at 4:48 PM

Foxbat said:
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.

Bobby said:
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!

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SatZach

Last reply Today at 4:30 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Hello again

I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.

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dishstaller

Today at 3:11 PM

Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 3:12 PM

Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here.

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Jimbo

Today at 3:16 PM

dishstaller said:
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.

From what I understand, it's just saving a article or whatever, to Save it so you can read it later ....
Unless he's talking something entirely different ... the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.

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dishstaller

Today at 4:30 PM

Jimbo said:
the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.

That was kinda the way I understood it as well.

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