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Last reply Nov 1, 2021 · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New TV Needed

I am going to look for another TV to add to my existing LG 43 inch that is about three years old. The LG has a good OTA tuner and program guide that looks ahead several hours.

Does anyone know if the newer 40 inch to 43 inch Samsung or Vizeo models have a good OTA tuner and program guide for OTA stations that will show a few hours of shows in advance? Not sure I can get a new LG for under $400 and I don't want to spend that much on a second TV for the bedroom.

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Will62

Oct 31, 2021

Noted two more issues that are with the Tuner. I am seeing some Herky Jerky motion at times with some of the video on some channels. Not sure if this is a 3.0 problem. And just a few minutes ago when hitting the channel button to change channels I noted that while moving forward with the channels, despite the fact I did not hit the back button for channel surfing, it stopped and moved backwards to the previous channel which coincidentally is one of the channels that has gone blank more than once while tuning it.

It is obvious this is a defective TV and I will have to return it.

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primestar31

Oct 31, 2021

Will62 said:
It is obvious this is a defective TV and I will have to return it.

Have you gone into the menus, and tried doing a new Firmware Download, to check for new firmware? If not, get used to it, because ATSC 3.0 is still basically experimental, and they keep changing stuff.

Will62

Oct 31, 2021

primestar31 said:
Have you gone into the menus, and tried doing a new Firmware Download, to check for new firmware? If not, get used to it, because ATSC 3.0 is still basically experimental, and they keep changing stuff.

Yes, have done the firmware update. Probably pointless to use 3.0 until they refine the technical side a bit more. I know a defective tuner when I see one and this Sony unit has a bad tuner.

Noted that a Ch. 45 around 50 miles from here comes in fine on my LG while the Sony can't really pick it up. As a result I purchased an Insignia 43 inch for my second room and as luck would have it, I accidentally broke the screen on a piece of wood. Still somewhat usable but for about 4 inches of the entire left part of the screen, it is useless and also a couple of lines run east west. My previous two attempts to use Insignia TV's didn't end well either. The last one I had a few years ago, I dropped and broke. Can't return something I broke myself. LOL. Have to eat the cost.

Will return the Sony and probably get another LG. Noted something called Nano Cell Technology for the picture of some of the mid grade models. Might be a pretty good picture and comparable to the Sony but minus ATSC 3.0. Clearly I should not own a Sony or Insignia TV since my track record with both companies TV's has been terrible. Similar issues with Samsung. For some reason the two LG's I've owned have not been defective nor have I destroyed them by being a klutz. I am willing to trade a bit of the picture quality for something that is more logical to operate and is not buggy. Most of the viewing I do (which isn't that much really) is comprised of older TV shows from the 50's through 80's and then some sports like Football, Hockey, Ice Skating, Tennis and Golf. Finding a TV with some motion enhancement will help on that. The Insignia has a good picture but is a bit rough with fast moving frames since it does not have motion enhancement technology. But bear in mind I am only shopping for a second TV to back up the other LG which is fine and I don't need to spend a lot of money on some features or technology I will never use. Just basic OTA viewing here.

Will62

Oct 31, 2021

I contacted Tech Support on Friday to address the issue a couple of issues. They did a diagnostic and didn't find anything wrong at least with obtaining ATSC 3.0 signals after the firmware update. So at least that is resolved and I am able to see them.

I purchased a Sony Bravia 32 inch in 2010 and also a Samsung 32 inch at the same time. Sony had a better tuner and would lock onto OTA signals better than the Samsung. Had the Samsung for the extended Program Guide for OTA signals since Sony even then, didn't offer that and only had a guide for the current show playing on each channel. Gave that Sony to my brother and kept the Samsung for about nine years until it started to get a little screwy and the remote gave out. Got the current LG after the Insignia I broke at that time was not usable. LOL. Had a LG prior to that in 2016 that also had a great OTA tuner but gave that to my brother as well. He now has that and the 2010 Sony.

At this point, given the terrible luck I've had with electronics at my current location over the five years I've lived here, I am not going to think about buying any more until I relocate to a new community and home 100 miles from here. Will likely have better luck. Perhaps future refinements through firmware updates will help improve the user experience of the current Sony. Picture is excellent most of the time and no real complaints aside from the stuttering I see from time to time on some channels. Very minor but it is discernible to a trained eye. BTW. Just pulled out a three year old 24 inch Philips TV which I have plans to use for a small radio station I am developing. Even that tuner was able to lock onto Ch. 45 with a watchable signal while the Sony can't. Might be able to get around this with a better pre amp at my new location.

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primestar31

Oct 31, 2021

Will62 said:
Even that tuner was able to lock onto Ch. 45 with a watchable signal while the Sony can't.

Is that true while using the same coax REMOVED from the Sony tv, and screwed onto the Phillips tv?

FTA4PA

Oct 31, 2021

Will62 said:
Will return the Sony and probably get another LG. Noted something called Nano Cell Technology for the picture of some of the mid grade models. Might be a pretty good picture

We have an LG tv with the NanoCell technology. This is the model:

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I will say the picture is great with one exception. On really dark scenes when a lighter object, such as headlights or a person, moves across the screen there is a distinct band of light visible on the screen with it/them as the picture changes. Also, we use the tv as a computer monitor and you can see the band of light shift as the mouse moves over a dark screen. It is more of an annoyance than anything as the scene on the screen must be almost black before anything is really noticeable, but it is definitely there and I wanted to mention it since you are considering one. Other than that it is a great tv. I have attached a gif of a short video clip I shot showing what I mean as I move the mouse pointer (a light object) across a black screen.

Will62

Oct 31, 2021

primestar31 said:
Is that true while using the same coax REMOVED from the Sony tv, and screwed onto the Phillips tv?

Yes. Same exact coax and antenna.

Will62

Oct 31, 2021

FTA4PA said:
We have an LG tv with the NanoCell technology. This is the model:

LG TVs: OLED, QNED, 4K, LED & Smart TVs | LG USA

Shop LG TVs to Transform Your Home Entertainment Experience. Discover the Latest Smart TVs with Stunning Displays, Clear Sound & Innovative TV Technology.

www.lg.com

I will say the picture is great with one exception. On really dark scenes when a lighter object, such as headlights or a person, moves across the screen there is a distinct band of light visible on the screen with it/them as the picture changes. Also, we use the tv as a computer monitor and you can see the band of light shift as the mouse moves over a dark screen. It is more of an annoyance than anything as the scene on the screen must be almost black before anything is really noticeable, but it is definitely there and I wanted to mention it since you are considering one. Other than that it is a great tv. I have attached a gif of a short video clip I shot showing what I mean as I move the mouse pointer (a light object) across a black screen.

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Thanks for the info. Will revisit this matter next year. In the meantime I am going to hang onto the Sony for now. It appears only the ATSC 3.0 channels at times have the very faint stuttering effect on some shows. Mostly noting it during some football games.

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Will62

Nov 1, 2021

Will62 said:
Thanks for the info. Will revisit this matter next year. In the meantime I am going to hang onto the Sony for now. It appears only the ATSC 3.0 channels at times have the very faint stuttering effect on some shows. Mostly noting it during some football games.

Have noted some more info to pass on. I have spent some time watching channels I don't normally watch simply because they. broadcast in ATSC 3.0 and can compare one to the other. It appears a couple of the stations here in Cincinnati (WLWT 5 and WCPO 9) have the issues. Saw it while watching college football and again last night when I tuned into the Vikings and Cowboys game for a while to double check. Still see some faint stuttering of the picture on both stations right now though it is not terrible. But it is there and is a distraction with some viewing. Have not seen it on Ch. 19 or Ch. 12 or Ch. 64 which also broadcast in ATSC 3.0. Not the subchannels though just the main channels are 3.0,

Tuner still can't lock onto 45 for the most part and when it does it goes away quickly. I suspect Sony cut some corners with the OTA tuner at the expense of the other features with the TV. But 45 is my weakest channel and I am thinking a new and better pre amp will solve the problem. When I relocate I will have a couple of equally weak signals and will need to address that issue since both are channels that I want to watch once in a while. 45 I don't watch.

primestar31

Nov 1, 2021

Will62 said:
Have noted some more info to pass on. I have spent some time watching channels I don't normally watch simply because they. broadcast in ATSC 3.0 and can compare one to the other. It appears a couple of the stations here in Cincinnati (WLWT 5 and WCPO 9) have the issues. Saw it while watching college football and again last night when I tuned into the Vikings and Cowboys game for a while to double check. Still see some faint stuttering of the picture on both stations right now though it is not terrible. But it is there and is a distraction with some viewing. Have not seen it on Ch. 19 or Ch. 12 or Ch. 64 which also broadcast in ATSC 3.0. Not the subchannels though just the main channels are 3.0,

Tuner still can't lock onto 45 for the most part and when it does it goes away quickly. I suspect Sony cut some corners with the OTA tuner at the expense of the other features with the TV. But 45 is my weakest channel and I am thinking a new and better pre amp will solve the problem. When I relocate I will have a couple of equally weak signals and will need to address that issue since both are channels that I want to watch once in a while. 45 I don't watch.

Try emailing the station engineers, and pass on your information about the issues you are seeing. They may not know it, and it may be THEIR problem to fix. I've always been able to Google their email addy's, and mine have always fixed whatever issues I've sent to them over the years.

Will62

Nov 1, 2021

primestar31 said:
Try emailing the station engineers, and pass on your information about the issues you are seeing. They may not know it, and it may be THEIR problem to fix. I've always been able to Google their email addy's, and mine have always fixed whatever issues I've sent to them over the years.

Good idea. Will see if this trend continues into this weekend. If so, I will probably do that. I have a friend that is a radio BE's and yes, they do appreciate help from the public in cases such as this.

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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.

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Jimbo said:
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.

Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.

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Very rarely listen to FM any more

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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank

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(((Garyd)))

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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank

Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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Sep 10, 2026

SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank

a good surge protector will help to.

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SkyWatcher57

Sep 11, 2026

(((Garyd))) said:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary

Hi Gary, still working on getting you those

SkyWatcher57 said:
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx

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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.

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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.

k4otl

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cyberham said:
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.

Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later

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techristian

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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.

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techristian

Saturday at 8:49 PM

Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN

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primestar31

Saturday at 10:47 PM

techristian said:
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN

That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.

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JFOK

Saturday at 10:54 PM

primestar31 said:
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.

primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John

primestar31

Saturday at 10:59 PM

JFOK said:
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John

Some people just call them power supplies (which really isn't a good fit in this case), some call them "wall adapters" but it's an external power supply or AC adapter that converts (AC) from a wall outlet into low-voltage (DC) that an electronic device needs to run.

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techristian

Saturday at 11:17 PM

[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.

cyberham

Sunday at 12:43 AM

techristian said:
...Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality...

105W has some very strong transponders. I received more than four transponders using a 41-inch dish recently. See here.

k4otl

Today at 11:07 AM

techristian said:
[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.

The Westwood One Mux on 105W would likely be receivable, has some good music channels on there. It does scan in, but it's more convenient to manually enter the PIDs, check out Lyngsat for the channels: EchoStar 105/SES 11 at 105.0°W - LyngSat

I use a 10 footer (only C-band dish I have), but it's very strong.

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