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Last reply Jun 5, 2022 · posted in Antenna Man

FCC to Consider Expanding FM Radio to 82-88 MHz, Replace TV Channel 6

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SamCdbs

Jun 4, 2022

The number of radio stations in a market is more a function of the government (FCC) deciding that a particular town "should" have X number of FM stations. There is no reason there could not be many, many, many more, with or without expanding the band other than the government's desire to protect the profits of the current stations.

harshness

Jun 4, 2022

SamCdbs said:
There is no reason there could not be many, many, many more, with or without expanding the band other than the government's desire to protect the profits of the current stations.

Broadcast radio is not set up to operate at a cellular level and it can't be "upgraded" to do so. Broadcasters can't reasonably control skip either. There are several reasons your theory is unworkable and economics can't be ignored.

SamCdbs

Jun 4, 2022

harshness said:
Broadcast radio is not set up to operate at a cellular level and it can't be "upgraded" to do so. Broadcasters can't reasonably control skip either. There are several reasons your theory is unworkable and economics can't be ignored.

Then please explain the scientific differences between places with lots of FM stations (and TV stations) and those with less (or none). Or please explain the scientific breakthroughs that have occurred to allow the FCC over the years to allocate new stations to growing towns.

I'll help you out. There aren't any. The FCC simply decides that X city should have X number of FM stations, and that Y town should have Y number. It is simply the granting of neo-monopolies with no scientific basis. Every place could have exactly the same number of stations.

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N5XZS

Jun 5, 2022

Interesting to see Japan and Europe are using full 76.1 to 107.9 MHz for many years now.

Brazil has just expanded their FM band to full 76 to 107 MHz just recently.

And why not USA too!?

harshness

Jun 5, 2022

SamCdbs said:
Then please explain the scientific differences between places with lots of FM stations (and TV stations) and those with less (or none). Or please explain the scientific breakthroughs that have occurred to allow the FCC over the years to allocate new stations to growing towns.

There haven't been that many full-power stations added nor have their been any important technical innovations since HD Radio. You may be making my point. There has been a whole lot of re-branding and physical movement of callsigns that may appear like new stations but they aren't really new.

SamCdbs said:
I'll help you out. There aren't any. The FCC simply decides that X city should have X number of FM stations, and that Y town should have Y number. It is simply the granting of neo-monopolies with no scientific basis. Every place could have exactly the same number of stations.

You throw the term "place" around pretty casually. There are places that are close to other places and there are places that are isolated. Their respective airspace can't be treated similarly. Unlike cellular where signal travel is relatively short and built out in small cells, broadcast radio travels pretty far by nature and how far it travels varies based on terrain. It simply can't come down to station count.

N5XZS

Jun 5, 2022

Other thing to add If I may, DXing is going to be more much fun!

76 to 88 MHz, band is much more prone to E and F2 skips in summer time and mid winter! :hungry

harshness

Jun 5, 2022

N5XZS said:
Interesting to see Japan and Europe are using full 76.1 to 107.9 MHz for many years now.

Some European countries have done away with analog AM and/or FM radio broadcasts altogether. It is also notable that these other continents are effectively using digital broadcast technologies (DAB) where we're largely stuck in an analog world. Norway shut down their FM band in late 2017 in favor of DAB. Germany doesn't have an analog AM radio band.

In late 2020, the FCC voted to allow US AM radio stations to transition to digital (MA-3) using HD Radio technology without the analog component.

There's a lot going on and it can't be considered in a vacuum. It is also notable that in many European countries, many of the major radio stations are often run by the state or its major subdivisions. Often these subdivisions demand an periodic fee for reception (think BBC and Germany's Der Rundfunkbeitrag).

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N5XZS

Jun 5, 2022

Here's the link on German AM radio...

AM-Radio-Stations.de – All about active AM-stations from Germany

am-radio-stations.de

Saying all AM stations on LW, MW and SW bands are shut down few years back.

However, there are few left with special licenses and some pirates stations out there in one way or other still on the air.

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ewindowman

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Last reply 31 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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JSheridan

Wednesday at 5:06 PM

AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 6:31 PM

JSheridan said:
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

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JSheridan

Yesterday at 3:06 PM

EarDemon said:
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:42 PM

JSheridan said:
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 7:58 PM

Almighty1 said:
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

I know, that still will use AT&T's 1996 created backbone better known as AS 7018 which is the lower end. The other two are higher end under AS2685 & AS2686 & AS1740 & AS1838.

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Juan

Yesterday at 10:10 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

Which connects to a backbone network

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Juan said:
Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

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Juan

31 minutes ago

comfortably_numb said:
Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

Backhaul only connects to the backbone...any cell phone tower in the verizon region ( core)..has to connect to the verizon backbone in some fashion..same with att..no matter what provider you use...the actual network ( routers and such) are owned by the cell phone company determine the speed of your cell phone connection

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 7:53 AM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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KAB

Oct 17, 2026

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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Jimbo

Oct 17, 2026

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

Teased Meeting ?

dfergie

Oct 30, 2026

I didn't recognize him till I saw this... (William Katt)

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Good episode.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 3:09 PM

Good one, Katrina Law's daughter played the little girl.

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Yesterday at 8:07 PM

dfergie said:
Good one, Katrina Law's daughter played the little girl.

I enjoyed it, Katrina's daughter is a cutie and possibly a natural in the acting side of things ... at least at the moment.

From listening to interviews, her little girl had a lot to do with the story line.

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:38 PM · posted in Movie Talk

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meStevo

Wednesday at 2:22 AM

Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.

dishstaller

Wednesday at 8:48 PM

meStevo said:
Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.

Might have to check that out. Google describes it as a "dark comedy thriller".

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Last night...

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Wednesday at 10:00 PM

Veterans Day and business closed, so movie day and some tv on the patio. Watched several Chewed Up episodes on YouTube out on the patio until lunch time then came inside for the surround and movies.

Raise The Titanic (1980). Great musical score by John Barry of James Bond music fame.

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Glenn Miller Story (1954). Great music

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