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worstman1

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Last reply Jul 20, 2022 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem with 110 satellite signal

I have a 1000.2 WA dish and a 722k receiver. The signal has been great for 3 years. It has only had short dropouts during very heavy rain.

I am having trouble with 110 reporting loss of signal.

The installer pointed at some tree limbs that would need to be removed about now (3 years). I have removed the tree and the signal levels have not improved.

The dish installation screen says:
Transponder: 13
110: 9-11
119: 45-50
129: 45-50

I did a check switch and it dropped the 110 saying it found fewer satellites. I ran it again and 110 came back.

Before I schedule a site visit, what way should I try rotating the dish to see if I can get 110 peaked. I thought West.

Next: if I need a site visit can they do the signal peaking from outside the house. My mom doesn't want a stranger in the house.
If I had to, I could probably be there outside and point the remote through the window for any access.
Or could I move the receiver and a TV to the roof for the installer access.

Thanks for your advice. Tim

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NYDutch

Jul 16, 2022

The numbers tell me the dish needs a little peaking. Having someone watch the 110 signal while you move the dish slightly side to side and up and down by putting some pressure on the reflector without loosening anything first could give you an idea of which way to go when you do loosen the bolts. Make sure you check all three sat numbers of course, before tightening the bolts back up.

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andydrinkell

Jul 18, 2022

worstman1 said:
I have a 1000.2 WA dish and a 722k receiver. The signal has been great for 3 years. It has only had short dropouts during very heavy rain.

I am having trouble with 110 reporting loss of signal.

The installer pointed at some tree limbs that would need to be removed about now (3 years). I have removed the tree and the signal levels have not improved.

The dish installation screen says:
Transponder: 13
110: 9-11
119: 45-50
129: 45-50

I did a check switch and it dropped the 110 saying it found fewer satellites. I ran it again and 110 came back.

Before I schedule a site visit, what way should I try rotating the dish to see if I can get 110 peaked. I thought West.

Next: if I need a site visit can they do the signal peaking from outside the house. My mom doesn't want a stranger in the house.
If I had to, I could probably be there outside and point the remote through the window for any access.
Or could I move the receiver and a TV to the roof for the installer access.
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Thanks for your advice. Tim

My mother has been having problems with rain fade since she switched to Dish Network. The installer made the goof of not plugging in the phone line and ensuring the receiver can "phone home". Also, he used the existing DirecTV dish mount, but did NOT leave the mount that came with the new dish, even after I specifically asked him to do so.

Given this, I checked the alignment of the dish, figuring he didn't spend the time needed to get the dish alignment spot on. Unfortunately, he did have it spot on as it could get. On 119, Mom sees satellite strengths from 91-109 on ConUS, most of which are in the 100's. On 110, the range is 85-105 on ConUS.

However, her spotbeam locals on 110 TP26s11 are clocking in between 89-91 in clear weather from zip 38922 (Coffeeville MS). For comparison, my brother gets 115 on his in Starkville (and his dish is slightly out of alignment).

Also, 110 TP3 signal strength can be observed going from 78-79 to 91-92 and back. All other TPs on both satellites only fluctuate the standard 2-3 points.

When I had a Dish 500, my strengths were 102-115 on both satellites with 119 TP9 (then a spotbeam for Birmingham, AL locals -- 250 miles away from me) at a solid 125 when the dish alignment was spot on.

Is it possible that the LNB unit on her Dish 500 has an issue, especially with TP3 fluctuating like it does? Her equipment consists of a Dish 322 receiver with a Dish 500 and Dish Pro Plus LNB wired to 2 TVs (the second one via coax on Channel 60). She also has the Protection Plan that Dish offers free to new subs.

If it is the LNB, will Dish replace it even thought she gets signals in the 90s and 100s?

Thanks in advance for your input.

HipKat

Jul 18, 2022

andydrinkell said:
My mother has been having problems with rain fade since she switched to Dish Network. The installer made the goof of not plugging in the phone line and ensuring the receiver can "phone home". Also, he used the existing DirecTV dish mount, but did NOT leave the mount that came with the new dish, even after I specifically asked him to do so.

Given this, I checked the alignment of the dish, figuring he didn't spend the time needed to get the dish alignment spot on. Unfortunately, he did have it spot on as it could get. On 119, Mom sees satellite strengths from 91-109 on ConUS, most of which are in the 100's. On 110, the range is 85-105 on ConUS.

However, her spotbeam locals on 110 TP26s11 are clocking in between 89-91 in clear weather from zip 38922 (Coffeeville MS). For comparison, my brother gets 115 on his in Starkville (and his dish is slightly out of alignment).

Also, 110 TP3 signal strength can be observed going from 78-79 to 91-92 and back. All other TPs on both satellites only fluctuate the standard 2-3 points.

When I had a Dish 500, my strengths were 102-115 on both satellites with 119 TP9 (then a spotbeam for Birmingham, AL locals -- 250 miles away from me) at a solid 125 when the dish alignment was spot on.

Is it possible that the LNB unit on her Dish 500 has an issue, especially with TP3 fluctuating like it does? Her equipment consists of a Dish 322 receiver with a Dish 500 and Dish Pro Plus LNB wired to 2 TVs (the second one via coax on Channel 60). She also has the Protection Plan that Dish offers free to new subs.

If it is the LNB, will Dish replace it even thought she gets signals in the 90s and 100s?

Thanks in advance for your input.

First of all, the phone line does not serve as a way for the receiver to phone home. That's what the Internet connection is for. That technology is obsolete on a hopper.

Second, I'm curious what you're using to measure those signal strength because they're not possible. There is an older setting on the satellite buddy meters that will give those kinds of readings but it's not what's currently used, due to accuracy.

Typically, we use transponder 21 when checking signal on the receiver. Every transponder has a different strengths so you're not going to get consistency. For the 110 satellite and the 119, using transponder 21 should be in the 70s with none or very little fluctuation. For the 129, transponder 23 should show signal right at 50.

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TheKrell

Jul 18, 2022

HipKat said:
That technology is obsolete on a hopper.

I still find the caller ID feature useful.

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HipKat

Jul 18, 2022

TheKrell said:
I still find the caller ID feature useful.

Yes it is, but that's the only thing that the phone line does anymore

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TheKrell

Jul 18, 2022

HipKat said:
Yes it is, but that's the only thing that the phone line does anymore

What happens to those who don't have Internet service?

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HipKat

Jul 18, 2022

TheKrell said:
What happens to those who don't have Internet service?

No caller ID, no On Demand, PPV, Apps, etc. Dish can't remote into their receivers for trouble calls

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dweber

Jul 19, 2022

HipKat said:
No caller ID, no On Demand, PPV, Apps, etc. Dish can't remote into their receivers for trouble calls

I would think that caller ID would come from the phone line so not having internet should not effect caller ID.

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HipKat

Jul 19, 2022

dweber said:
I would think that caller ID would come from the phone line so not having internet should not effect caller ID.

It does, I was too quick to post that

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worstman1

Jul 20, 2022

NYDutch said:
The numbers tell me the dish needs a little peaking. Having someone watch the 110 signal while you move the dish slightly side to side and up and down by putting some pressure on the reflector without loosening anything first could give you an idea of which way to go when you do loosen the bolts. Make sure you check all three sat numbers of course, before tightening the bolts back up.

NYDutch:
What transponder should I use to peak my 722k? I thought I saw 26 listed in another post.
Also approximately what should the numbers be for the 3 satellites when peaked.
I'm at zip 49009. I have a friend coming on Thursday to help me with peaking the dish.
Thanks

HipKat

Jul 20, 2022

worstman1 said:
NYDutch:
What transponder should I use to peak my 722k? I thought I saw 26 listed in another post.
Also approximately what should the numbers be for the 3 satellites when peaked.
I'm at zip 49009. I have a friend coming on Thursday to help me with peaking the dish.
Thanks

My meter uses by default Transponder 16 for the 119, 15 for the 110 and 23 for the 129. 110 and 119 should be near or in the 70's, 129 should be above 50

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NYDutch

Jul 20, 2022

worstman1 said:
NYDutch:
What transponder should I use to peak my 722k? I thought I saw 26 listed in another post.
Also approximately what should the numbers be for the 3 satellites when peaked.
I'm at zip 49009. I have a friend coming on Thursday to help me with peaking the dish.
Thanks

As HipKat said...

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klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

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harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

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MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 12:25 PM

osu1991 said:
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though

Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

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Jimbo

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MikeD-C05 said:
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin

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Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...

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Yesterday at 11:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

Just sayin...

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You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ...

For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

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