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Radioguy41
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I scrolled through the listings on Nat Geo for the next few days and this is what's scheduled (see below). What does any of this have to do with National Geographics? This is junk on the level of Discovery Channel, not worthy to be associated with the once respected name of National Geographics. Sad. I'm not seeing a bright future existence for it. :rolleyes:

To Catch A Smuggler: (fill in any city name)
Drugs Inc: The Fix
Narco Wars
Gordon Ramsey
Wicked Tuna
What Really Happened
JFK: One Day In America
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While the main Nat Geo channel isn't listed here, it's sister channels are:
DIRECTV & Spectrum May Have Just Killed 30 Cable TV Networks | Cord Cutters News
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Many of those shows you listed have been part of Nat Geo's lineup for over a decade. Drugs Inc has been on their schedule since 2010, Wicked Tuna and To Catch A Smugler have been around since 2012, while shows like Gordon Ramsay: Uncharted and Narco Wars were originally comissioned around 5 years ago back when FOX still owned the channel.


While the main Nat Geo channel isn't listed here, it's sister channels are:
DIRECTV & Spectrum May Have Just Killed 30 Cable TV Networks | Cord Cutters News
Contrary to the claims of that Cord Cutters headline (where most of their articles are misleading SEO clickbait), DIRECTV has NOT signed any deal similar to what Spectrum did. And despite Spectrum dropping Nat Geo Wild, Disney XD, Disney Junior, FXX, Freeform, and others back in August, all of them still have exclusive first run programming scheduled well into next year, including 3 new shows that were announced last week for Freeform.

Also nothing was saved for the consumer by dropping them, most of those networks were only pennies per subscriber as their operational costs are tied to their more popular sister channels, so the rates of their base packages didn't go down as a result of this deal, and now Spectrum customers have to pay an extra $7.99 ($17.99 ad free) for a Hulu subscription (which wasn't part of the deal) if they want next day access to FXX and Freeform's originals, and wait until the current seasons finish airing for Disney+ to get the other originals, while Disney+ doesn't even have the rights to Disney XD's first run anime dubs. Word is the only way to take advantage of the bundled Disney+ or ESPN+ offer will be to switch to one of the Spectrum "essentials" packages where you lose access to even more channels that have exclusive first run programming, and if it's anything like other bundled OTT offers like Peacock's, they won't be able to upgrade to the ad free option.


Natgeo is taking the lead from MTv. ;)
In MTV's case they have multiple channels for people who still want to watch music programming that's curated: MTV Live, MTV Classic, Tr3s, along with the Flex pack only mtvU, Nick Music, CMT Music, BET Jams, BET Soul and BET Gospel.
EarDemon
Many of those shows you listed have been part of Nat Geo's lineup for over a decade. Drugs Inc has been on their schedule since 2010, Wicked Tuna and To Catch A Smugler have been around since 2012, while shows like Gordon Ramsay: Uncharted and Narco Wars were originally comissioned around 5 years ago back when FOX still owned the channel.



Contrary to the claims of that Cord Cutters headline (where most of their articles are misleading SEO clickbait), DIRECTV has NOT signed any deal similar to what Spectrum did. And despite Spectrum dropping Nat Geo Wild, Disney XD, Disney Junior, FXX, Freeform, and others back in August, all of them still have exclusive first run programming scheduled well into next year, including 3 new shows that were announced last week for Freeform.

Also nothing was saved for the consumer by dropping them, most of those networks were only pennies per subscriber as their operational costs are tied to their more popular sister channels, so the rates of their base packages didn't go down as a result of this deal, and now Spectrum customers have to pay an extra $7.99 ($17.99 ad free) for a Hulu subscription (which wasn't part of the deal) if they want next day access to FXX and Freeform's originals, and wait until the current seasons finish airing for Disney+ to get the other originals, while Disney+ doesn't even have the rights to Disney XD's first run anime dubs. Word is the only way to take advantage of the bundled Disney+ or ESPN+ offer will be to switch to one of the Spectrum "essentials" packages where you lose access to even more channels that have exclusive first run programming, and if it's anything like other bundled OTT offers like Peacock's, they won't be able to upgrade to the ad free option.



In MTV's case they have multiple channels for people who still want to watch music programming that's curated: MTV Live, MTV Classic, Tr3s, along with the Flex pack only mtvU, Nick Music, CMT Music, BET Jams, BET Soul and BET Gospel.
As a Charter customer, I am soooooo happy those channels are gone. The only downside was the return of all of the other Disney owned channels. I wished they would have just gone away and never came back.

None of the channels that were removed have a valid reason to exist. Their content can be migrated to the flagship channels if Disney cared enough. FXX is an utterly useless channel. It has a grand total of three original series, all with a 30 minute run time, two of which used to be on FX. If each one of those series had 10 episode seasons that's a grand total of 15 hours (minus commercials) of unique content a year. With most new FX original content going to Hulu, I'm sure Disney could spare 15 hours on FX if they really wanted to.

Freeform's target audience is 13 year old girls, not that same demographic as cable TV viewers. From October through the end of the year, how many times can one watch Hocus Pocus and the first two Home Alone movies?

Very happy that Disney+ will only be for subscribers with the new packages. I'm on the old TV Gold package, so I won't be indirectly paying that awful company for something I will never use. It's bad enough the ESPNs came back.

All it will take is for one more of the larger MSOs to make a similar deal to what Charter did and most of those channels will fold.

Hopefully Charter does the same when the Viacom contract comes up. I saw an article the other day where the CEO of Charter made a comment about why are they paying for Comedy Central when quite a bit of the new South Park content is going directly to Paramount Plus. The programming providers are devaluing their own channels by moving a lot of original content to their streaming services and are using existing channels to run cheap reality garbage and the same old shows over and over. How many channels really need to show Friends, The Office, and Law & Order all day long?
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As a Charter customer, I am soooooo happy those channels are gone. The only downside was the return of all of the other Disney owned channels. I wished they would have just gone away and never came back.

Hopefully Charter does the same when the Viacom contract comes up. I saw an article the other day where the CEO of Charter made a comment about why are they paying for Comedy Central when quite a bit of the new South Park content is going directly to Paramount Plus. The programming providers are devaluing their own channels by moving a lot of original content to their streaming services and are using existing channels to run cheap reality garbage and the same old shows over and over. How many channels really need to show Friends, The Office, and Law & Order all day long?
The only thing I wish to say, Charter got rid of all those channels, made their expenses a lot better, yet did not reduce the monthly fee with their elimination of them.

If I remember correctly, had the standard two price increases in a year, just like Comcast and now, DirecTV.

So you might be glad they are gone, yet you still pay their way too high of a price for a bunch of rerun channels and a Broadcast Channels fee of over $20, for channels you can get with a antenna.
Juan
Found this...its not gospel but it's from the wall street journal



Niche networks including Freeform and National Geographic may have less value to the company, executives have found.
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Not gonna "sign in" for that.
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Not gonna "sign in" for that.
Here ya go
EarDemon
The only thing I wish to say, Charter got rid of all those channels, made their expenses a lot better, yet did not reduce the monthly fee with their elimination of them.

If I remember correctly, had the standard two price increases in a year, just like Comcast and now, DirecTV.

So you might be glad they are gone, yet you still pay their way too high of a price for a bunch of rerun channels and a Broadcast Channels fee of over $20, for channels you can get with a antenna.
Don't understand the logic at all. This in all likelihood prevented or lessened the blow of a future price increase. Charter is still probably paying the same or more with the new deal, just not paying as much as they could have been had they agreed to carry the worthless channels that were removed. If they are not paying any less, no reason why the subscriber should be paying less.

And even with the the Broadcast fee, in many situations, mine included, Charter is much cheaper than DirecTV for as close as possible equivalent levels of programming and packaging.
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The only program of relevance to Nat Geo I watched was the mini-series "A Small Light", earlier in the year. It was excellent.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
harshness
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
dishdude
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
AZ.
AZ.
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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TAKE On ME-A-Ha
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On Broadway - George Benson
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Stay In Time - Off Broadway USA
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Just In Time - Tony Bennett
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Jimbo
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Jimbo
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
harshness
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Jimbo
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
harshness
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
TRG
TRG
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
Jimbo
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
Jimbo
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
Juan
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
22g per serving.
Juan
22g per serving.
How much is a serving?
Bobby
How much is a serving?
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
Jimbo
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Jimbo
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .
navychop
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
navychop
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
Jimbo
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
Bobby
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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Foxbat
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Bruce
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
Jimbo
Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...