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eichenberg
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I am no longer under any contract. Last contract signed in 2017. 12 year customer. I have been on pause for 4 months now and have decided to cancel Dish this morning as I have not missed it being on pause and was told I would be charged $20 per box to ship equipment back. I have a Hopper 3 and a Joey 2.0 plus the lnb's off my dish. So what 2 or 3 boxes. So $40 - $60 to cancel. All I have to say is good riddance then.
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T
So do the wrong thing because it saves them money. Maybe if they had a local dealer they supported, the gear could have been picked up for a lot less. I'm sure this was behind their drive back in the late 90s to direct-sell and so generously mail along a "free self-install kit". Do they still do that?

Charlie played some cards the right way early on, luck or otherwise, but he played more the wrong way, purely out of greed.
Juan
So do the wrong thing because it saves them money. Maybe if they had a local dealer they supported, the gear could have been picked up for a lot less. I'm sure this was behind their drive back in the late 90s to direct-sell and so generously mail along a "free self-install kit". Do they still do that?

Charlie played some cards the right way early on, luck or otherwise, but he played more the wrong way, purely out of greed.
It all started with the bogus DVR fee after he promised free DVR for life
That American Girl
Again, if you CAN'T get the LNB then you... ahem....

...DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT BACK.

Just drop a note in the package when you send the receiver back. This isn't rocket science...
tanman
Again, if you CAN'T get the LNB then you... ahem....

...DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT BACK.

Just drop a note in the package when you send the receiver back. This isn't rocket science...
Perhaps in the instructions should be a line indicating that return of the lnb is optional .Something about recycling could appeal to some customers.
MikeD-C05
It all started with the bogus DVR fee after he promised free DVR for life
Amen, that was where DISH went wrong. Before that, they were trying for low prices and value for the customers. Once they added Dvr fees and raised the additional receiver fees they made themselves out of sight in pricing. Especially once they added the Hopper with a $15.00 Dvr fee and then you had to have a joey at $7.00. I said all along if you bought your receivers there should of been no additional receiver or dvr fees. Oh well it is all going to be water under the bridge soon enough. Then the streaming services will continue to do the same thing to their apps as cable did, raising prices every year and people will stop using their service. #GREED. :smug
dishdude
Amen, that was where DISH went wrong. Before that, they were trying for low prices and value for the customers. Once they added Dvr fees and raised the additional receiver fees they made themselves out of sight in pricing. Especially once they added the Hopper with a $15.00 Dvr fee and then you had to have a joey at $7.00. I said all along if you bought your receivers there should of been no additional receiver or dvr fees. Oh well it is all going to be water under the bridge soon enough. Then the streaming services will continue to do the same thing to their apps as cable did, raising prices every year and people will stop using their service. #GREED. :smug

Well to be fair, the 501/508 had a very low take rate...at the time it was a $50 one time upgrade fee at signup to go from a 301 to 501. People decided $5/mo for the rest of their lives was better than a one time $50 fee. :oops:

I'm with you and always hated the DVR fee which is why I have a Wally with an EHD.
Jimbo
Well to be fair, the 501/508 had a very low take rate...at the time it was a $50 one time upgrade fee at signup to go from a 301 to 501. People decided $5/mo for the rest of their lives was better than a one time $50 fee. :oops:

I'm with you and always hated the DVR fee which is why I have a Wally with an EHD.
$5 a month for life is better than $50 one time fee ?????
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Bruce
$5 a month for life is better than $50 one time fee ?????
I never understood any box fee, to pay a $50 fee ( or a $5 or more monthly fee) just so I can continue to keep paying them another monthly fee for programming just made no sense.

DVR fee I understand, because they are providing a different service on top of your programming service.

Those who buy boxes ( say a Hopper 3) and then still have to pay a monthly fee on top of the cost of the box, I never have understood, not like you can use the box for something else if you cancel and you are basically paying twice, cost of Box and the per box fee.
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Jimbo
I never understood any box fee, to pay a $50 fee ( or a $5 or more monthly fee) just so I can continue to keep paying them another monthly fee for programming just made no sense.

DVR fee I understand, because they are providing a different service on top of your programming service.

Those who buy boxes ( say a Hopper 3) and then still have to pay a monthly fee on top of the cost of the box, I never have understood, not like you can use the box for something else if you cancel and you are basically paying twice, cost of Box and the per box fee.
Only advantage I could see to Buying a Recvr is that with Dish, you can turn it Off and On as needed.
That American Girl
Perhaps in the instructions should be a line indicating that return of the lnb is optional .Something about recycling could appeal to some customers.
Absolutely agree! I still get so many calls on this.
eichenberg
Perhaps in the instructions should be a line indicating that return of the lnb is optional .Something about recycling could appeal to some customers.
I just got my email with return instructions and it lists the equipment to return. It says ONLY return the equipment listed below and all it shows is my H3 and Joey 3. So, based on the email I only have to return those two items. However, the email also lists instructions for packing and returning equipment and those include removing and returning to LNB. I'll be going by what the email says and returning the H3 and J3 only.

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raoul5788
I just got my email with return instructions and it lists the equipment to return. It says ONLY return the equipment listed below and all it shows is my H3 and Joey 3. So, based on the email I only have to return those two items. However, the email also lists instructions for packing and returning equipment and those include removing and returning to LNB. I'll be going by what the email says and returning the H3 and J3 only.

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Keep that email!
dishdude
Keep that email!

I'd print a copy out and throw it in the box too.
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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T
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
T
Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
Y
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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T
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
T
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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lordodogg
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hello again, haven't posted here in a while.

This morning, around 6:30am, I woke up and found the front panel lights on my HR44 on (I leave it off all the time as it is co-located with one of my Geminis).

Immediately thinking that either a reboot or power outage occurred, I checked the software version, and found that it's still the same release that was sent out last month.

I then ruled out a power outage by checking the clocks on my appliances and seeing that they're still correct (they reset when there's an outage, somewhat similar to the "blinking 12" on VCRs).

I then confirmed a reboot by checking the Upcoming Recordings (fka To-Do List) and seeing that the number was much lower than before (it always resets after a reboot).

I am definitely guessing what happened (and it may very well be actually what happened) is that the "Reset Required" prompt may have come up sometime overnight, and it eventually timed out and rebooted automatically. IIRC that prompt comes up when new software "plugins" have to be installed.

Would like to hear your thoughts, especially since I probably haven't talked to some of you reading this in a while (was a former CE member, left almost a year ago).

Thank you all in advance!
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Tom Speer
My HR54 blue light is on this morning. I think you ae right about the plugins. They are tweaking things in the customer National release. What version does your HR44 Genie have now? I think you are probably on the same varsion as the CE group today.
lordodogg
I believe mine says 0x1D7F
Tom Speer
That is what I have.
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lordodogg
Happened again today & have new software, 0x1d88