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Bruce
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The last main one, Redbox, is having Revenue issues due to not enough people renting disc anymore.

They put themselves up for sale last October, no takers.

By the way, I still do purchase some movies on 4K Disc, be sad to see it go, but technology moves forward.

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Confused how Sony is shutting down physical media when they JUST inked this deal with Disney.
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Confused how Sony is shutting down physical media when they JUST inked this deal with Disney.
They just signed a deal with Lionsgate also to do the same, but unfortunately, nothing last forever and the writing is on the wall.

I used to collect LaserDiscs, at the time, a better format then VHS, then DVD came around, a few years later, gone.

First sign was the rental market drying up, because of streaming, now with new movies on sale via digital a month or two before the disc is released is another sign, then the movies appear on the streaming service the same time as when the disc is released is another.

Last sign is more electronic companies are no longer making players, Sony and Panasonic are, but older designs, the last new one came out 3 years ago.

Now, I still buy 4K Discs, it is the best format, but streaming is close, for example, Movies Anywhere uses a much higher bit rate then Vudu and itunes, so I use that the most.

But streaming is so much more convenient then doing the disc thing.

As of this writing, in 2024, it has been years since any new, mainstream 4K Blu-ray players have been introduced. Some name brands (like Samsung and Oppo) have stopped making new 4K Blu-ray players altogether, and others (LG, Sony, and Panasonic) have not introduced new models in several years.

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I like digital, but only when it comes with the physical. There is no guarantee that your license will survive. There is a good likelihood it will, but Movies Anywhere could close up shop tomorrow and all you'd see is a $0.15 per movie lost in the $429 million class action settlement.
They just signed a deal with Lionsgate also to do the same, but unfortunately, nothing last forever and the writing is on the wall.

I used to collect LaserDiscs, at the time, a better format then VHS, then DVD came around, a few years later, gone.
You haven't experienced a movie until you've experienced it on CED. :D

If one is willing to spending well over an hour watching the multiple segments, Technology Connections on YouTube has I think a three-part series on the development of the CED, which could have been huge, had RCA not fumbled it so badly.
But streaming is so much more convenient then doing the disc thing.

As of this writing, in 2024, it has been years since any new, mainstream 4K Blu-ray players have been introduced. Some name brands (like Samsung and Oppo) have stopped making new 4K Blu-ray players altogether, and others (LG, Sony, and Panasonic) have not introduced new models in several years.
Panasonic just finally released a player which finally provides HDR10+ and Dolby Vision on a device that is $200 (or less).
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For all of 2023, VOD/EST was $4.3 Billion, Physical was $1.5 Billion.

Disc sales dropped 25% from 2022 to 2023, while VOD/EST grew over 5%.

Streaming Services grew 21% 2022-2023, which is another bad sign for Cable/Satellite.
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For all of 2023, VOD/EST was $4.3 Billion, Physical was $1.5 Billion.
I'll be curious to see if this turns around. I know a lot of people who have started buying discs again due to the issues of content "ownership," but that could just be my peer group. Of course, I know a number of people who have started pirating content as SVOD prices have risen as well.
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I'll be curious to see if this turns around. I know a lot of people who have started buying discs again due to the issues of content "ownership," but that could just be my peer group. Of course, I know a number of people who have started pirating content as SVOD prices have risen as well.
Physical is still shrinking, I will post this again from Q1, 2024-

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It shows even more loss, but VOD/EST was up even more, both in $$$ and percentages.

Again, I still buy some discs, just bought a Panasonic DP-UB820-K Player for the better video quality.

But even buying a disc does not mean you own the movie, it is still licensed ( limited rights) in a different form, a little harder to shut down then streaming.
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It shows even more loss, but VOD/EST was up even more, both in $$$ and percentages.

But even buying a disc does not mean you own the movie, it is still licensed ( limited rights) in a different form, a little harder to shut down then streaming.
I was actually wondering if it will turn around, not if it is turning around, so no need for a duplicated post. I suspect piracy will grow way before physical media sales start to recover, but I'll be curious to see what happens, so please continue to post future numbers.

As for the licensing of physical media, I have a lot more control when I physically possess the disc than just have a "purchased" VOD version that can be revoked at any time with little effort on the part of the studio. I get that a lot of people won't care, but I do, at least for the movies and shows I possess on disc.
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Not to mention, careful selecting can yield very high quality on optical discs.
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Panasonic just finally released a player which finally provides HDR10+ and Dolby Vision on a device that is $200 (or less).
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So checking out the 4K landscape, and I suppose I should have read up on things a bit more. Long story short, here is a great resource, I think, that lists 4K releases and what they actually have regarding HDR eye candy, IE HDR (Disney to heck with you!), Dolby Vision, and HDR10+, and native 4K or fake-ish upscale. No reviews, however, on whether the transfer is any good. I like this site for that.
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Not a good inning… Kavan coming on could be the nail.
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Better team won tonight…
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Well crap. That wasn't fun. Oh well on to the CFL opener on cbs sportsnet.
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"In the end, there can be only one" - Duncan MacCleod of the clan MacCleod
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... :D and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
Happy to see that DTV Stream will finally line up fully with the DTV Satellite 4K content and Channel Guide.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
They turned them on today !
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They turned them on today !
I see in the 4K Channels Guide that the Telemundo WC games will be airing in 4K. I believe this is the first time ever we will have Spanish-language broadcasts in 4K (in the USA). Did not happen during the last World Cup in Qatar 2022.
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4K telemundo working !

406 still SD here in Norfolk Va 📡
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
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Right on Time - Brandi Carlile
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Time Stand Still - Rush
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
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