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RaidZero
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Greetings!

I am new to this forum and this seems like one of the few places I may be able to find my answers.

I have been a Dish Network customer since fall 2000. I had the DHP that was offered at the time and was tickled that I didn't have to purchase equipment. I understood at the time that in-home visits are at no charge and that all equipment on the account is covered.

Fast forward 5 years. I call Dish to purchase a 921 and specifically ask if it will be covered under my current plan. Take a guess...they tell me yes, that any equipment under my account is covered for the life of my account.

Being the paranoid person I am I call back today (5 months later) to confirm this and now it appears I have been "baited and switched". The CCR tells me that "only the original leased equipment you received from Dish is covered under the DHP".

My questions are: Who is right? What is right? and Have I been baited?
Is there any recourse that I will have if my 921 goes awry?

(If this is already covered somewhere in this forum I apologize.)
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boba
DHP was supposed to cover all of your equipment wether leased or owned. If you have a copy of the agreement read it. DISH has been trying to cut costs and improve profits so if it is not spelled out in your contract expect to pay DISH extra now for what was supposed to be free. The burden of proof will be on your sholders DISH is in it for PROFIT.
O
I too am grandfathered in the old DHP plan. I too have owned (811 & 6000) as well as leased equipment. I have had several service calls over the years and replaced my 6000 (owned) 4 times. All at no charge.
RaidZero
just called

I just called in again to verify the story. Now the CSR says that every bit of Dish equipment in my house is covered, leased or purchased.

He said I pay 81.99 for AEP (with a $5 "warranty" DHP fee= $86.99) and I also pay a separate $8.99 for locals, whereas DHA people pay $86.99 for AEP+locals.

Furthermore DHPP would be an extra cost on top of that for that warranty program ($1.99?). Since I pay $5/mo for the old DHP program I would never need DHPP as DHP has in-home and equipment replacement is free.

In further discussion he said the downside of DHP in the past was that the accounts didn't have the great upgrade promotions that non-DHP customers had. So what that meant was that we had to pay full retail price for additional receivers that weren't avaialable for lease (e.g. 6000, 721, 921).

While this makes me happy, it is a bit disturbing that the type of service I will get may just depend on the "luck of the draw" of a phone call. CSRs apparently are confusing DHP, DHA and DHPP. It's probably Dish's fault for not being careful with their acronyms :)

I'll wait for official word from my email to Dish...

--Dom
RaidZero
Resolution from Echostar!

I received this email:
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Dear Dominick,

Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay on this response. All receivers (including the 921) on your DISH Network account are covered under your DHP Warranty. I apologize for the confusion this may have caused. If you have any questions please let me know.

Thank you,

Natalie Winters
Executive Resolution Team
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So, good, yes, yay. DHP is a good thing!!!
SimpleSimon
While this makes me happy, it is a bit disturbing that the type of service I will get may just depend on the "luck of the draw" of a phone call. CSRs apparently are confusing DHP, DHA and DHPP. It's probably Dish's fault for not being careful with their acronyms.
It's not that (acronyms), it's just a lack of training (or ability to learn).

We call it CSR Roulette - just keep calling until you get the answer you want. Many times you'll get it, even if it's "wrong". :)
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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dishstaller
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
ncted
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
B
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
(((Garyd)))
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
Jimbo
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.
Bruce
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Bruce
Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

Bruce
and this from AI, for some reason, not on Echostar's investor page-

In the third quarter of 2026, parent company EchoStar (owner of Dish Network and Sling TV) reported a net loss of 43,000 pay-TV subscribers, compared to a drop of 64,000 in the same period last year. [1]
  • Traditional Dish Satellite TV: Experienced a net decline of approximately 188,000 subscribers, ending September 2026 with 5.89 million satellite customers. [1]
    • Sling TV (Streaming): Added roughly 145,000 net subscribers during the quarter, partially offsetting the satellite losses. [1]
    • Total Pay-TV Base: Ended the third quarter with 8.03 million total pay-TV subscribers (down from 8.07 million at the end of the second quarter)
ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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comfortably_numb
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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Time In A Bottle - Jim Croce
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4