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I setup a dishmover (free under dhpp which i have) last week for today. Moving from duplex to 3rd floor apartment. Apartment rules: no holes drilled into balcony or railings. Therefore, would have to go with bucket mount. Installer called this morning and asked some questions and said no, we can't do your dishmover, because we are a Regional Service Provider, and our contract with E* prohibits us from doing bucket installs, we must screw it into the railing or no install. Period. So I call Dish, tech asks whats going on and realizing can't do anything, transfers me to Winback. (I know all the ins and outs, worked at one of the calling centers for over 18 months). He offered to give me one month's credit of $70 to offset the cost of hiring another local retailer to come do the bucket install plus flat cabling that can go through sliding glass door. (another apt rule that no holes drilled in exterior walls or connected any way to existing cabling in the apt).

So I called a few local guys and was only able to get a hold of one, who said he could do it for $60, plus $60 for first hour labor and $30 for each additional. Knowing that all I needed was a dish 500 with no switches or long cable runs (i have a 522) and one cable plus separators, and then one cable run to the 2nd room in apartment, it shouldn't take any more than 2 hours at most. $150 for someone else to do install when any other customer that calls up gets it free if they have dhpp or have been a customer longer than i have been. Coach said best she could do was $30. I said wanted $150, just so I could break even (which I would have with a dishmover). She transferred me to ERT executive resolution team, formerly EODN, and said best he could do was $70. I told him that's not really true, when working for them I had seen them give as much as $350 to someone's acct. He transferred me to ERT supervisor, and said he could do $99.95, the 'value' of a free dishmover. Basically said that I should have known that RSP's don't do bucket mounts at all. I said I wasn't asking for 3 free months just to keep from going to another provider, or whining because I have to wait 5 days for a service call and I can't watch my favorite shows or anything like that, I just wanted to break even like I thought I would with the dishmover. He said I see that you were a former employee and just working the system. Take the $99.95 or bye. The whole time I was under control, not being rude or obscene whatsoever.

My only other choice is Cox cable, because I won't be in the apartment a full year to sign up for Directv. But i'll lose ESPNU, CSTV, and others I care about, and gain absolutely nothing from Cox. On top of that, if I go ahead and take the deal, the $100 and hire the local retailer, I'm not 100% sure I can get a signal. I believe I can based on sight of other dishes in the area, and direction, and stuff, but even if I couldn't, it would be $60 for the trip plus the $60 for the first hour for a minimum of $120, and I have the chance of getting no programming if i can't get LOS.

I'd email ceo@blah blah blah but I believe that goes to executive offices which i spoke to today and one of their supervisors, both of which left a bad taste in my mouth.

Any suggestions or comments? Am I completely off base here? I mean they were going to give me the $99.95 value dishmover for free anyway, all I'm asking for is an additional $50, less than 1 month of programming credit.
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ZandarKoad
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Location: Wisconsin
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Confirmed. There is a possibility of a the cable catching fire and burning itself out.

But I've never been told that Dish forbids it. They aren't liable for an install they didn't do: hence the subcontractors.

The use of Flat Coax is not Dish approved also 99% of apartment install are illegal by Dish standards (Flat coax, No Grounding, bucket mounts ect.) and there churn rate is higher not really that value of a customer unless you live in a major city a high percentage of apartment dwellers churn. thats why I send them to Radio Shack.
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zandarkoad and I both do dnsc fullfillment. While we both realize that apartment installs do not meet Dish standards, we also have been flat out told to get it done regardless. They tell us to have them sign off there is no place to ground, use of flat cable on superdish applications, bucket mounts, U-bolts holding up a superdish 8 feet in the air etc etc.
Basically, get the job done at all costs. Sacrifice quality, safety everything just get it done or we will find someone else who will get it done and get it done cheaper. Personally I have not failed a single dnsc QC in 2 years of doing their work. They tried twice and both times I went out with our qc tech and took pictures of the ground that the DNSC could not find or did not look for.
I think they turn their heads at apartment installs altogether and honestly I think most of the QC techs don't check very well. Copper straps on electrical conduit does not consitute a proper ground, yet that is what we are given to use and they pass the "rigorous" QC's.
ZandarKoad
Word.

Efficiency rating is held to such a high standard, that any QC issues are obliviated. Besides, if someone is going to get sued, odds are it's not Dish. It's going to be the sub. So dish would gladly turn its head in these circumstances. Note: I'm referring to instances where you CANNOT do a job without voilating a QC rule. Not those instances where you just don't WANT to do a job without violating a QC rule. Big difference.

I've used many hundreds of flat cables. I've never failed a QC for using a flat cable. My point being: Dish DOES have a double standard, but they have it for a reason.
Liquidforce88
Who are you subbing for in Wisconsin? Is it AEI?
ZandarKoad
No, but are they hiring?
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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dishstaller
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...