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For the first time in over 4 months, ISS's repeater will be turned on for a period of 3+ days to be used worldwide! The ISS in repeater mode is the easiest "satellite" to work. Operation will be possible with a standard dual band mobile radio with your standard run of the mill dual band magmount. Dual band HT's, especially those with the quarter wave rubber ducks should have no problems, either. Omni antennas will do just fine and you'll probably get full scale signals from them. I expect there'll be a LOT of activity due to the short period it will be on (and the rare occaision that it's actually turned on), the possibility of the astronauts/cosmonauts coming on to talk, and the ease of working this "satellite" repeater. Here's the write-up from www.issfanclub.com

As part of the Space Patrol special event activities, the Russians have submitted a request to place the Kenwood radio into repeater mode beginning some time on Dec 27 and operating until 0912 UTC on Dec 31 when Exp 12 Commander Bill McArthur will be speaking to Boy Scouts in Thailand.

It is anticipated that this request will be approved and that the radio will be available for amateur radio operators world wide during the 3+ days of operation.

The crew may also join in at anytime so be prepared to talk to them if they call. The worldwide downlink is 145.80 MHz, and the uplink is 437.80 MHz.
All frequencies are subject to Doppler shift. This link:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf
on the ARISS website has a memory programming chart for dealing with the Doppler when using ISS in crossband repeater mode .

Special thanks to the PCSAT2 team for their coordination efforts to make this a possibility

Kenneth - N5VHO
ISS Ham Project Engineer
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KE4EST
I have tried with no success yet.....will keep trying
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ke4est said:
I have tried with no success yet.....will keep trying

Were you able to hear it, though?
KE4EST
Oh yes I have heard it on several passes, and just tonight one of the ones on board said it was going to stay on longer than the 31st. I would like to verify that, so we can start a new thread on it.
g6crv
VO1ONE said:
I made a few contacts on the ISS repeater including one with G6CRV, but over the continents it is very difficult to get in with all the QRM. Only the big guns seem to be getting through. However, when it's over the ocean, I have no problem getting in with 1 watt. People need to adjust for doppler, listen and if they're not getting through, stop transmitting; don't hold the key for a minute. The ISS repeater's squelch is set pretty high so if the slightest signal is QRMing another, then it shuts off. The audio is pretty low. Don't overdrive your audio to compensate for it. Some have said that it will shut down if you do, although I've never experienced that myself. I'd say that'd have to do more with being off frequency due to doppler. Still a couple days left and the crew has been active at times on the repeater so give it a try. Good luck!
It is a problem with some stations using rigs with no duplex and no doppler shift control. At least if you have a rig like the Yaesu FT847 you can monitor your own signal through the ISS repeater. I use satscape to control doppler.
I am in the fortunate position to live on the west coast of UK and have a fairly unobstructed take off to the west (right on the coast here), so I can work through the ISS as it comes up over the horizon.
Many thanks for the contact on 28 Dec , I did hear you on 27 Dec also, but I left it too late to call you and it had gone below your horizon. I did listen for you on other passes when the ISS would be in range of New Foundland and West coast UK but no joy. Only a few of the passes are any good for cross pond contacts.
Dave G6CRV
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g6crv said:
It is a problem with some stations using rigs with no duplex and no doppler shift control. At least if you have a rig like the Yaesu FT847 you can monitor your own signal through the ISS repeater. I use satscape to control doppler.
I am in the fortunate position to live on the west coast of UK and have a fairly unobstructed take off to the west (right on the coast here), so I can work through the ISS as it comes up over the horizon.
Many thanks for the contact on 28 Dec , I did hear you on 27 Dec also, but I left it too late to call you and it had gone below your horizon. I did listen for you on other passes when the ISS would be in range of New Foundland and West coast UK but no joy. Only a few of the passes are any good for cross pond contacts.
Dave G6CRV

Yes, I agree, although I do think some with full duplex are at fault as well. When they hear that they aren't getting through, they hold down the key until they can hear themselves. They don't realise that they are just adding to the QRM by doing that. Doppler is a big problem too. I think many don't realise that you have to adjust opposite of what you do when you are receiving the downlink on a satellite such as AO-51. It is easy to set up on any radio just by setting up separate memory channels for the different portions of the pass. Most will let you get down to 5kHz steps so you can start 10kHz under, then 5kHz, on frequency, 5 up, then ending at 10 up. The RX frequency for all of those would be the same of course, unless your radio has 1kHz steps. FM capture effect is usually good enough to compensate for the small amount of doppler experienced at 2m. Now if you have a satellite rig and a computer interface, you can have both right exactly down to the hertz automatically ;-) Of course, with the ISS repeater only being on for a few days during a time where a lot of people have time off from work doesn't help either. If the ISS repeater wasn't such a novelty it'd make it easier with more times of less activity.

Thanks also for our QSO. I wasn't on other passes because I was on holidays in Florida ;-) Took the HT with me, but was a little out of footprint for a UK mutual pass hi hi! Maybe I'll hear you on AO-51, SO-50 or AO-27 sometime. Footprint is much larger on those. Could manage a QSO longer than 2 sentences then hi hi!

73,
Mark VO1ONE
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It's not even where it folds!
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
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AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
1792633296785.webp
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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