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Shawn95GT
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I'm toying with a PC that I'd like to eventually get to display HD FTA on my TV. I plan on picking up a USB DVB box as a tuner (not a factor at this point!).

The PC is a Shuttle SK41G barebones PC
It has an Athlon 1800+, 256M RAM, 80 Gig hard drive.

I added an AGP video card that had DVI out. It's a cheap S3 Savage4 chipset card.

I wasn't terribly suprised when I first hooked it up and I got nothing but a black screen once the PC booted past the DOS / Windows loader screens.

I connected a monitor and set the display adaptor to the lowest resolution that it would allow me to - 800x600. Doing this got me to a point that I can boot to the Windows desktop.

The results so far have been less than impressive. All of the verticle lines on the display are wavy and the top and bottom of the screen are cropped off. The screen does not pan around.

Is this a symptom of a crappy video card, or a TV that doesnt like acting as a computer monitor? I have an ATI 9800 Pro that I could try in the box and see if it does any better.

I just don't want to chase my tail trying to make this work if my TV is the culprit.

The TV is an RCA HD50LPW42 (50" DLP).
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Shawn95GT
With the 9800 Pro in my workstation I was able to get the TV to display a 720x480 desktop. This was the only resolution that the card would let me select :(.

The good news is that the picture looked VERY nice this time around.

I'm going to try the file server on the TV next to see if I can get 1280x720 or even 1920x1080 :).

The TV won't accept an external 720p input so I suspect that 1280x720 might not fly.

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Progress! I was able to look at the display properties and see that it will accept 1920x1080 if I can find myself a card that'll display it.
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Shawn
Shawn95GT
I got it :cool:

It displays 1280x720 and 1920x1080 just fine. The edges are just a tad off of the screen but it's livable. I had to un-check the 'hide display options that aren't supported' and then I got the option for these resolutions.

Now I just need to get around to picking up a DVB tuner :).

Shawn
digiblur
Shawn95GT said:
I got it :cool:
It displays 1280x720 and 1920x1080 just fine. The edges are just a tad off of the screen but it's livable. I had to un-check the 'hide display options that aren't supported' and then I got the option for these resolutions.
Now I just need to get around to picking up a DVB tuner :).
Shawn

Look around for some overscan setups. Or there is a very cool utility that has a bit of a learning curve but works great:

http://entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm

Next thing on your list is the soundcard with SPDIF out, right? ;) This is the one I have my eyes on... I have th DolbyDigital EX one right now.

http://www.bluegears.com/xplosion.html

Then next on your list is this?? ;)

http://www.gyration.com/en-US/ProductDetail.html?modelnum=GC1005M&accshow=3
Shawn95GT
I'll check out the OS stuff.

The SK41G has integrated audio with a SPIDF out :). I'm sure that it isn't as nice as what you are looking at though. If I upgrade it'll probably be one of the extigy cards (something external).

I actually have the Remote wonder from my HDWonder card that I'll probably use. I NEVER use it on the PC that has the HD wonder, and it's a UHF remote. If it doesn't work out I'll get something like that ;). I think I'll get one of them Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse kits too.

Shawn
digiblur
I've got an addiction worse then a FTA one... It's called the FTA/HDTV/HTPC all rolled in one addiction! ;)
The HTPC looks nuts on the back.
3 USB IR remote sensors
1-wireless keyboard/mouse USB receiver,
FTA card(2 F connectors)
Sound card with headphone style plugs, and digital optical and coaxial connections NVIDIA card with VGA, DVI, and component/svideo breakout box
MyHD-130 card (cable QAM and OTA HD DVR card)with two F connectors, component breakout box with composite and svideo in.
Along with 3 HD's stuffed inside to make 800gig of storage.
And last but not least....the serial cable tied to the Fortec for easy channel management.
I'll have to post a few pics of the setup in action.
iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
1792633296785.webp
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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