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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
to much...restrictions, rules, $$

After 9 years of uninterrupted service, I cancelled my Dishnetwork tonight.

Groundhogs Day 2006

There was just too many changes, increases, restrictions and rules!!!!

Programming increases
increases in extra receiver fee
increases in DVR fee (still never understood why a DVR fee in the first place)
increases in New HD package, and Standalone HD package
have to wait till April to get $200 rebate
$100 charge to upgrade to a 622 after shelling out $799 for a 942, 3 months ago
only able to upgrade 2 tuners / year
18 Month committment
New HD "enable" fee to receive OTA HD if not subscribed to HD Package
Not bundling new HD channels (Universal & ESPN2) with old HD package MPEG2
Not allowing anyone after 2/1 to activate 942 or 811 with HD package
HD Lite
Lossing OLN Channel
MUST subscribe to SD locals in order to receive program guide data for OTA on 942
Still no reasonable High Speed Internet solution
lack of compelling content in new HD additional channels
old receivers to never get any new programming

I am sure I am missing a few issues....oh yes, BETA TESTING Dishplayer 7200, & 811 DISH Equipment !!!!

I am off to cable land where I will get 2 HD DVRS, Showtime, Digital package, HD package, digital HD locals, on demand services and Road Runner High Speed Internet for $10 more than I am currently paying Dish before any of the new increases or any upgrade "deals".

Charlie......there's trouble in River City, and that's spelled with a Capital D..I..S..H :downl
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Brewer4
I just canceled my Dish service. I was only with them 10 months after Voom demise but I only got it for the supplemental HD. I did watch a few hours a week but with the new $5 per month increase and the new packages for the new HD just sent me through the roof. I just could not justify the price for a few HD channels when I already have Directv. They pushed hard on the phone but I said unless you give me HD package for $30 per month, I cant float it. Sorry Dish. I am surprised but you just priced yourself out of my house.
G
jerryez - if i get FIOS in the next 6 months (as planned) I will be sure to let you know how much better it is than the HDLITE poo-poo that DISH is giving you.
tonyp56
OK, the thing about all this is, a few months ago, say September, October, and November, I was on this and other boards reading post from people saying stuff like "I'm going to go buy me a 942" "Dish won't be going to MPEG4 anytime soon, so I'm going to go get a 942", "I bought my 942 today, I ordered my 942 yesterday, how do I get a $250 upgrade for a 942, etc..." Every post that I read like this there was at least 1 person that pointed out, "don't get one, they'll be obsolete soon" I even posted this a few times myself, however, the warning fell on deaf ears, no one wanted to hear it, they didn't care, because they had to have the latest and greatest NOW, and no matter what anyone else said, they were going to get the latest and greatest NOW.

I understand that most didn't know that the 942 would become obsolete 2-1-2006, however, most don't know about the 622 or 211 yet, most don't know about a few more channels that requires a new receiver, and even if they did, most don't have to have the newest and latest! You guys are talking about this like Dish is forcing you to get rid of your 942, they are not! You, are the one that wants to get a 622 NOW, and because you now can't sell your 942 for $500 or whatever, your pissed. Here is an idea, DON'T go buy a 622 NOW, wait another year or two, Dish isn't making you upgrade, you are the one that wants to upgrade.

If we go back to the computer or Microsoft idea, new processors come out very often, hell six months ago if you bought a Intel system, you already can't upgrade to the newest Dual Core P4's, for you to do this, you would have to go out and buy a new motherboard and CPU (possibly new memory), say $300 (ATLEAST!!!) but because you don't have to have the fastest and best processor, you don't upgrade yet, though if you did, you'd have a faster machine. Same thing goes for Dish, you bought a 942 for $700 1, 2, 3, or 4 months ago, however, now Dish has come out with new receivers and with these new receivers you'll also be able to look at new channels that Dish now offers. With Dish you get new receivers and channels, with Intel you get new CPU and faster machine, however, neither require you to upgrade ANYTHING, it is your choice, if you want faster machine or if you want new channels, it isn't forcing you to upgrade. Like Intel, Microsoft, etc. Dish isn't telling you, YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE, they are simply giving you the option to upgrade. If it was a have too, then your argument would have some ground, but since it isn't forced, and in fact it is voluntary, your gripping about something that you yourself have caused.

Go ahead and move to cable, if you really think Dish is so horrible, but don't try to make it out to be something Dish made you do. If you didn't have to have everything NOW, the whole issue wouldn't be there. Rates go up, that like others have said, is a fact of life. And you lost OLN, but really, how much worth did that channel have? If Dish would have raised the price $4 just because they kept OLN, then raised it the other $3 or $4 that they did, would you be saying what you say? Or would you be gripping even more, because now Dish raised your bill by $7 or $8 instead of $3-4?

And have any of you guys asked the great cable company "how much will my bill be after the promotion period?" I'll bet none of you are paying what you will in 6-12 months. Its like DSL in my area, they are offering it for something like $14.95 a month, however, it is only for the first 6 months then it goes up to $21.95 or something like that. I'll bet your cable company will do something like this too, now it is $55 for instance, but in 6-12 months it will be $108 or some other higher number.
bunnyville
Yragha said:
All I can say is enjoy it while it last...

I'm dumping Time Warner here in Houston come Monday and getting Dish Network.

The picture can't be any worse on Dish and with the constant cable price raising I think I'll enjoy Dish and all the more choices it has to offer.

Don't bet on it.
bunnyville
tonyp56 said:
OK, the thing about all this is, a few months ago, say September, October, and November, I was on this and other boards reading post from people saying stuff like "I'm going to go buy me a 942" "Dish won't be going to MPEG4 anytime soon, so I'm going to go get a 942"...

I understand that most didn't know that the 942 would become obsolete 2-1-2006, however, most don't know about the 622 or 211 yet, most don't know about a few more channels that requires a new receiver, and even if they did, most don't have to have the newest and latest! You guys are talking about this like Dish is forcing you to get rid of your 942, they are not! You, are the one that wants to get a 622 NOW, and because you now can't sell your 942 for $500 or whatever, your pissed. Here is an idea, DON'T go buy a 622 NOW, wait another year or two, Dish isn't making you upgrade, you are the one that wants to upgrade.

I think you missed a big part of the point. Before I went to E*, I had no TV for the last 9 months because my apt complex gets some rinky-dink cable outfit that doesn't offer HD. I can't get TWC/RR where I am because of some stupid FCC loophole.

Here's what pisses me (and probably a lot of others) off - I got my 942 at the end of Nov. I LEASE this equipment from E* and now they want me to fork out another $299 on top of the $299+ I just gave them less than 3 months ago so I can get ALL of the HD channels. It's not all about having "cool" equipment. I pay them extra every month to get HD along with the extra DVR fee, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm not getting what I'm paying for. I'm paying for HD and they are witholding half of it from me and won't let me upgrade my receiver. That's what's making me think about telling them to shove it and just get TV on my OTA.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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dishstaller
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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All Night Long - Joe Walsh
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Night Fever - Bee Gees
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long_time_Dish
Night By Night - Steely Dan
RaiderPower
Day By Day - Godspell
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Derk Day - Steve Walsh
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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dishstaller
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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R
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Y
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
T
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Tom Speer
Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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ncted
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv