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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I signed up with Dish in 9-05, my monthly bill was 32 bucks and some change. I just had dvr installed 2 days ago. I was told by the local company that installed it that the only extra charges were going to be 5.98 month for the dvr, along with the $3 extra from the rate increase of Amer Top 60 on 2-1, so 9 bucks extra a month, I was ok with that. Now Dish is telling me that besides those charges there is now a $5 month leasing fee for the receiver. It's not that I can't afford the extra 5 bucks a month, but now I'm paying almost what I paid for cable. My local company told me that I could get a couple of referal cards and he would send them in for me to get $10 off my bill for 10 months, which sounds great, he felt bad for telling me there was no $5 month leasing fee.

Anybody else ticked off about this leasing fee??????? And.....wasn't there some type of guarantee on the pricing when I signed up that protected me against the $3 increase for the Amer Top 60??
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I've called Dish probably 15 times on this and am comtemplatling leaving over this. I have a 322 and I wanted to upgrade to the 522 or 625. They've told me I'd be charged $5.98/month for a DVR fee AND $5.00 leasing fee. It would be my ONE AND ONLY receiver and WOULD be hooked to the phone line and I'd STILL get charged the $5/month leasing fee. They said that anything beyond your first receiver, even if you return it for another, you get charged $5/month lease fee. And, I have yet to find it on their website where they say that they charge a $5/month lease fee if you use their Dish'n'up promotion.

The kicker, if I disconnect dish for 6 months, I qualify for new customer deals and could get the 522/625 WITHOUT the $5/month lease fee.

Dish does not take care of exsiting customers at all. Once you're hooked, they try to get more and more money out of you versus trying to give you good deals and keep you happy.
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mera said:
DVR fee 5.98 (waived if has aep)
leased recvr fee (after the 1st recvr) 5.00
additional outlet programming fee (aka phn line fee) 4.99 (waived if connected to phn lne)

The bold above is incorrect. The lease fee is charged on ALL leased boxes, including the first.
MNETOP
MikeD-C05 said:
From what I read elsewhere , Directv is going to charge up to $499.99 for their lease deal for their hd dvr receiver. Makes Dish's offer look damn good. I think satellite companies in general are going to gouge the hd customers now just like they did when satellite companies first started.

I know that I paid up to $450.00 for up to a years programming for like the top programming I think it was, for a standard 2 room Dishnetwork receiver install back in 1997. It is like 1997 all over again for hd customers.

I have already paid $1000.00 for a 921 p.o.s. and $700.00 twice for the two 942s I bought just Last YEAR. So what is another $99.00 in April? It is either that or pay up to $15.00 a month for a digital hd dvr that is basically a digital vcr without name based recording with Cable. Sadly , Dish is still the better offer compared to the competition.

Mike,

That is not true. I just left Dish and my bill is a total of $83.00 including all taxes and DVR fees for the following: All digital channels, HBO and Showtime including their HD feeds, All network HD signals, iNHD1, inHD2, HDNet and HDNet Movies, Universal HD, ESPN HD, TNT HD, Discovery HD, the Spanish package, and 2SA HD DVRs. This with a picture quality that is better than i was getting with Dish.

Yes, this DVRs may not be as good as Dish Network's but good enough for me. And I had no upfront investment, no commitments and my price is guaranteed for 12 months!

You have to amortize your hardware equipment cost to be able to compare pricing to competition. Spending $300 for the right to lease a DVR means that you are paying about $8.00 a month extra if you spread it over 3 years. You have already spent $2400 in Dish equipment so if you amortize it over 5 years that is an extra $40.00 per month you paid for your Dish service. It does not sound that much cheaper than the competition if you look at it that way, does it?

I joined Dish a year after you did and when Dish was better in all aspects. And it was not until this year when I open my eyes and discovered all the improvements made by my local cable company.

Mario.
MikeD-C05
Your individual experiences with your particular cable company will vary. In my instance it is about 15.00 a month to have a hd dvr and I would need two so I would be out 30.00 a month on fees to have less hd with TimeWarner Cable than with Dish. I tried TWC a few years back and I hated it . The picture would block up and pixelate by the hour and had freezes on the picture . It was far worse than anything I ever experienced with Dish or Directv. But like I said your individual experiences will vary.
MNETOP
MikeD-C05 said:
Your individual experiences with your particular cable company will vary. In my instance it is about 15.00 a month to have a hd dvr and I would need two so I would be out 30.00 a month on fees to have less hd with TimeWarner Cable than with Dish. I tried TWC a few years back and I hated it . The picture would block up and pixelate by the hour and had freezes on the picture . It was far worse than anything I ever experienced with Dish or Directv. But like I said your individual experiences will vary.

You are totally right that it varies by individual cable company. I am now with TWC here locally so it varies by town even with the same company. But in my case is amazing how much better the picture quality is, especially on the non-HD channels.

See many companies have upgraded their wiring and when they did that here in Austin, picture quality improved greatly. It was the picture quality what drove me away from them originally in the late 90s. But again was very surprised now 8 years later and the problems you describe are no longer there.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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dishstaller
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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All Night Long - Joe Walsh
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Night Fever - Bee Gees
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Night By Night - Steely Dan
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Day By Day - Godspell
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Derk Day - Steve Walsh
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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dishstaller
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv