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first post, so i hope this is the correct place.

i live in a new apartment building, built last year and pre-wired for directv. i recently upgraded to HDTV, but i can't get a signal from the 110 and 119 satellites. i believe it's due to the long cable runs -- from the roof of our five-story building, the cables run to the basement, then back up to our fourth-floor apartment. i would like to try an inline signal amplifier. do i need to install it in the basement, where the lines come in from the roof, or can i install it in my apartment? also, we have a 5x8 multiswitch in the basement of the building (the dish serves four other apartments) -- if i need to put the amplifier there, does it work with multiswitches?

for the record, i've had various technicians try to diagnose my problem, and none have fixed it so far, but no one had suggested an amplifier, either, which is why i'm wondering if it'd even work. thanks.
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Jimbo
Is it possible that , seeing it's an aprtment complex, that they can only receive programming from the 101, the core programming ????
Therefore making his efforts wasted ?
I am hoping that is not the case, but the thought did cross my mind ...
also, is the dish used for this type of situation the same as we use on our houses ?
Is the dish a 1, 3, or 5 LNB dish ... that could go a long way to explaining his issues as well, I don't think it's an amplification issue.

Jimbo
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AntAltMike said:
I doubt that amplification will solve your problem. The 119 signal power levels aren't appreciably weaker than are the 101 levels. You may have a dish aim problem, or a wiring problem, or a partial obstruction, or even an LNB problem.

There will be no operational problem using an inline amplifier that nominally operates on 14 to 18 volts DC. If an LNB sees about 15.5 volts or higher, it sources the evens, and if it sees less than that, it sources the odds. In fact, if you send 18 volts to one side of the LNB and no volts to the other, the 18 volts will drive the LNB's amplifiers and you will get the odds from the port that has no line voltage present.

You can put a 10dB inline amp right near the switch input. You should not put it near the dish. The dish puts out about -30dBm of signal strength. The inline amps are low-powered amps and typically develop unacceptably high 3rd Order Intermodulation Distortion if driven above about -20dBm. The one exception is a very expensive Spaun 10dB inline amp that probably retails for around $70. I have used that at the LNB when my wiring was going to be relatively inaccessible for a few hundred feet, and I didn't want anyone in the future to have to spend hours looking for a the preamp if it ever failed. The 22Khz inputs are for Sat B/C.

How long are your lines? You should be able to safely go over 300 feet in combined dish-to-switch-to-receiver length without inline amplification, and I have never had trouble at less than four hundred feet.

thanks. well, for the record, no, the amps didn't work. i'm at my wit's end here because i don't know what the problem is. i'd say the lines are roughly 100 feet from the roof to the basement, then maybe another 75 feet back up to our apartment. i live in a complex with three identical buildings, each with its own triple LNB dish. a neighbor in another building, who also lives on the fourth floor (same as us), gets his Sat B/C signals with no problem. i checked, and ours is wired the same as his. he's the only other person in the complex with HD through directv.

now, i had a guy from directv come out, and he checked the signal in our apartment, and he said it was low. he said (and i'm just quoting what he said, not really knowing what it means), "it's in the 30s, and it should be in the 50s or 60s." however, i had another guy come out who didn't really seem to know what he was doing, but he bypassed the 5x8 switch in the basement, connecting two of the lines from the dish to the two lines going to my apartment. when he did that, i got my HD channels. however, the rest of the building lost half their channels, so that's not a feasible solution.

i've had two technicians check the dish alignment, and both said that was fine. there are no obstructions. one guy was set to replace the LNBs, but then he thought he fixed the problem when he bypassed the switch. could the switch itself be bad? does that ever happen? if so, what switch would anyone recommend?

edit: for the record, i swapped my lines with another apartment's lines on the output of the 5x8 switch, but it didn't fix it. could the switch's inputs be bad?
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it was the multiswitch. i swapped out one from the other building with the one in our basement, and everything works. i appreciate everyone's help on this board.
Jimbo
montyphan said:
it was the multiswitch. i swapped out one from the other building with the one in our basement, and everything works. i appreciate everyone's help on this board.
So now everyone at the other building is having trouble ?
You swapped them out with a going bad (possibly) multiswitch.
Did you call D* to let them know they need to replace it ?

Jimbo
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Jimbos said:
So now everyone at the other building is having trouble ?
You swapped them out with a going bad (possibly) multiswitch.
Did you call D* to let them know they need to replace it ?

Jimbo

i'm selfish, but not THAT selfish. :) the other building has only one apartment with directv. he was hooked to a multiswitch in case other people in the building also wanted directv. i simply connected his line directly to the dish output. the condo board is buying a replacement multiswitch for the other building.

honestly, i got fed up with calling directv. the one time i did, the guy came out and supposedly checked the dish, then checked my signal strength and proclaimed it was a wiring problem. but he could plainly see that i was using a 3x4 multiswitch for a multiroom direct setup that included an HDTV. if it's your job to do this stuff, shouldn't it be obvious that that's wrong? i got the strong feeling from the technicians who came out that it was easier for them to say they couldn't fix it than to possibly spend more in replacement parts than the visit was worth.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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