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I had a fairly annoying experience recently with my DISH install. I have been a Dish customer since 2000. Up until now I have owned all of my equipment, bought it all straight up. I decided to get the 622 lease deal and got the free install along with it. The installers come out and take down my 2 Dish 500's with Quad LNB and 2 Single LNB's and put up a Dish 1000. I was happy with the install and after they leave I go outside to put the Dish's they took down in the garage. They were gone. They took my old dishes, lnb's and switches.


This really annoyed me, as I owned that equipment and they never asked if they could take it. I have always done my own installs in the past, I own 6 Receivers with only 4 active. I have no idea when or what i might want to do with my equipment in the future, but its my equipment to decide. The fact is now I have decided to reconnect one of my deactivated receivers and need the equipment to hook it back up. I ended up calling them the day after the install to ask them to bring back my stuff. The CSR said they would have the local office that did the install (It was a real Dish Installer, not a subcontracter) give me a call. For about a week I kept calling and kept getting told they would have the local office call me to no avail. I was finally able to get the number from the CSR for the local office so I could bother them myself. I called and worked with them for another week until finally this morning the installer comes back out to my house this morning.


He walks up to the door and hands me the lnb's and turns around to leave. He is obviously annoyed and pissed off. I say that I also had 2 Dish's. He says that he might have one in the truck. He goes and gets one dish and sets it on the porch then turns to leave without saying anything. I then remind him that I had switches as well. He says "Oh you mean those little things that attach to the cables?". This was the guy who installed my new Dish 1000. This guy knows what a switch is and he knows that I had them and that he took them. Why the heck is he screwing around with me? He says he doesnt have any and I say that I need them. He calls his boss on his cell phone and then goes to his truck and gets them for me.


I know there are alot of Dish installers who come to this site. Can someone explain to me why this guy was so pissy and upset about me wanting to get the equipment back that I own? Why was he jerking me around like that? Do Dish installers get a bonus or something for collecting the old equipment?
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Liquidforce88
One point is dish requires a LNB be RA'ed for the dish1000 upgrade. If you don't ra a LNB dish will not pay for the upgrade. Weather the customer owns it or not.

So if the installer does not RA the old LNB he will get charged back for the cost of a Dish1000. That means they work for nothing on that job.
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It should be present to your CUSTOMER before begin the install.
Both must know conditions BEFORE.
rcdallas
Whenever I do upgrade, almost always standard practice is to remove all the old equipment. There have been times that I had left existing equipment in tact due to the way it was mounted - for example 100' on a radio tower. I'll leave it, I'm not climbing to get it, I'll just document it on the service agreement.

As to attitude you recieved, who knows maybe he was having a bad day, girlfriend giving him headaches, dog died? Regardless as said a few times already, all that stuff should be declared up front during the job survey otherwise standard practice is to return it.
Tom Bombadil
When I took the upgrade, the installer said that the deal required him to take the old equipment. Didn't matter if I owned it or leased it, that if I wanted the deal then I had to give up the old equipment.

But when he looked at it and saw it was all old Legacy gear, Legacy LNBs and SW21 switches, he wasn't too interested. Said he had a pile of that stuff back at his office that he couldn't get rid of. I let him pick and choose what he wanted. The stuff was of no use to me since the upgrade gave me Dish Pro Plus LNBs.

I also kept my old D500 & D300-61.5 setup and let him keep the D1000. I had no use for it. Although Dish believes I have a D1000 and am getting 129 because that's what the workorder said and it was never changed.
bigthrust
One point is dish requires a LNB be RA'ed for the dish1000 upgrade. If you don't ra a LNB dish will not pay for the upgrade. Weather the customer owns it or not.

So if the installer does not RA the old LNB he will get charged back for the cost of a Dish1000. That means they work for nothing on that job.


My Dish 1000 upgrade has already been posted to my account. The cost $0.00
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I could understand if that was the deal I agreed to in the first place. That's fair. If they say you get a Dish 1000 installed but I have to take the Dish 500 I probably would have called the Dish CSR to try and work with them on that and if it had to be done I would have done it. That's all fine and upfront.

I am over it all now, I was really upset when it went down but now I can see both sides and for all I know the guy was just having a bad day.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
Neutron
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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long_time_Dish
Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
mc6809e
Rest In Peace
sdfntx
R.I.P., Jean-Luc.